JonB wrote:It's hardly likely you'll get anything revolutionary after this long. The last major changes were from 2D to 3D, and then to online MP, and then it's been refinement ever since, with all the major genres long-established. Even new controllers like the Wii were novelty rather than revolution, otherwise we'd still be using them now. And social media hasn't changed games themselves much.
I don't think it's just about some dearth of creativity (although there is some of that), rather the inevitable outcome of a medium establishing its capabilities and limits.
Perhaps if there's anything left it'll be some major jump forward in AI that becomes standard and broadens the possibilities of interacting with game characters.
Paul the sparky wrote:Oh shit, people wrote stuff while I was watching The Walking Dead.
mistercrayon wrote:The revolution Wii provided was not in its control but in its invitations to alienated and ignored potential players. That generation migrated onto appstore and microtransaction fests but Nintendo opened the door. On the otherhand popcap would also be a good shout for this award.
superflyninja wrote:Speaking as a level 20 Destiny Hunter, how exactly is it revolutionary? (Genuine question, I may not have played enough to know).
Djornson wrote:In film and fiction, is the term revolutionary used? Do you have a revolutionary work of fiction? Do you have a revolutionary film? I don't think i've heard that myself. You have 'important' or 'seminal' which seem to be better terms. Maybe there were only 'revolutionary' games as the technology progressed, technical progression has slowed now (which is fine) and we are seeing very polished, important and seminal games. Perhaps virtual reality is the only next 'revolution' possible?
that is a good point.but i wasnt talking sbout writing styles or twitter.ust the basic tools of writing.words and paper.adding images allowed for comics etc.it may havr bern a poor snslogy by me! but i stand by wot i done sed.bout new tech n dat.cockbeard wrote:Well that's kinda bullshit superfly, the medium informs the style which becomes the convention. Printing was expensive so words were measured, valuable. Written records would be clipped, succinct and often restricted to matters of law, god and ownership, not frivolities like journals or entertainment.
As the printing press started to democratise that process, people were allowed greater freedom to tell more detail. We assume that pre industrial revolution Britons spoke in the same clipped way we see in books. I'd wager that they didn't. The Finnish songs collected by Lonnrot kinda show this because because he collected the spoken word of those people and we see lots of alliteration and repetition
Skip to today where everyone is a content creator, where twitter asks us to condense our thoughts to 140 characters, where clixkbait asks us to sensationalise each post we make to gain views and therefore approval, I guarantee if we read each Nobel Literary prize winner in chronological order we'd see the fashions reflected in the writing style
mistercrayon wrote:On the otherhand popcap would also be a good shout for this award.
Music's an excellent example of this. There really haven't been any technological advances in music since cheap laptops and DAWs democratised the recording process back in the early 90s, the two decades since have been pretty stale creatively AFAICT.JonB wrote:But it points to the general idea that revolutions now happen when new technology comes along, in any medium, and styles and content develop from that. Creativity needs something different to work with, else we get remixes and polished versions of what's gone before. Not sure there's anything wrong with that as such.
Have you played WoW before, or any other MMO for that matter?Yossarian wrote:The raids are unlike any other gameplay experience I've had. This may or may not fit someone's personal definition of revolutionary.superflyninja wrote:Speaking as a level 20 Destiny Hunter, how exactly is it revolutionary? (Genuine question, I may not have played enough to know).
djchump wrote:Chalice - have you played Wow, or any other MMO before?
Cool.stonechalice wrote:Yes. I've played WoW. For me, it was hard to get into. As I say, I'm not a PC gamer really, but I have a PC, and it could run WoW, but not at optimum and that put me off straight away. Also, I wasn't mad keen on the whole fantasy, cutesy aesthetic of the game, and the gameplay itself was rather clunky and average, it felt a little shallow, and I didn't have a headset, or anyone I knew to play with. I understand where Destiny's roots are, but I refer you to my post above as to why, for consoles, Destiny is a big deal.djchump wrote:Chalice - have you played Wow, or any other MMO before?
I'd agree with that if they'd done it via free updates, but they didn't, they were paid - so it's not like "they fixed the issues", they sold the fixes, and that's a rather different beast and not one that I will laud.stonechalice wrote:One year later, it's a different game to what it was at release. That, to me, is a good thing, not bad. We used to slate devs for releasing there games and just forgetting them, never patching problems and bugs, so you put that game on a year later and it's the exact same.
Ah yeah, knew I'd forget something, but that's a biggie!stonechalice wrote:Halo 3 had user made/publishing/rated content. Forge maps and the like. That was before LBP.
Nope. In fact Im playing Destiny so far as a single player game pretty much. Though the Strike I did with randomers was great. Having other people there was super cool.djchump wrote:Have you played WoW before, or any other MMO for that matter?The raids are unlike any other gameplay experience I've had. This may or may not fit someone's personal definition of revolutionary.Speaking as a level 20 Destiny Hunter, how exactly is it revolutionary? (Genuine question, I may not have played enough to know).
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