They've done loads beyond raw power, I just doubt any of it is considered revolutionary, because most big budget gaming has reached a baseline of kinaesthetic and systemic robustness, and therefore most of the impressive leaps just seem incremental to the casual eye.

The way systems overlap in bizarre but nearly always logical and consistent ways is definitely one of the most impressive things of the latest crop of games, but of course that exists on the previous gen consoles too.

So, gin anyone?

Rum is for kids. Just like gaming.

Yossarian wrote:

This discussion will go nowhere due to differing interpretations of revolution and evolution. It's very easy to argue that the first ever videogame was revolutionary and everything since was an evolution.

I think revolution is taking an existing system and doing something with it that's so different that people say "well bugger me I wasn't expecting that to happen" etc. I don't think we've had that for a while and it could be due to a lot of what 10p said, but I do worry that it could also be that it doesn't fit the business model of major publishers.

Splatoon is a revolution.

Crackdown 3 Azure thing got merit.

mistercrayon wrote:

The last revolution was the wii remote.

I'm willing to bet money that, could you be arsed, you'd be able to trace the evolution of the Wiimote from some device in some obscure arcade machine which could recognise movement along one axis, then a second which managed two. The chances of that jumping fully formed out of someone's head is tiny.

b0r1s wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

This discussion will go nowhere due to differing interpretations of revolution and evolution. It's very easy to argue that the first ever videogame was revolutionary and everything since was an evolution.

I think revolution is taking an existing system and doing something with it that's so different that people say "well bugger me I wasn't expecting that to happen" etc. I don't think we've had that for a while and it could be due to a lot of what 10p said, but I do worry that it could also be that it doesn't fit the business model of major publishers.

Which is an entirely subjective definition of the term and therefore fairly useless.

Re: the Wiimote: Ninty stole it from Sega!

Yossarian wrote:

Minecraft is proper fucking revolutionary.

Isn't Mincraft just videogame Lego?

Revolutionary for the game design, the marketing, the 'beta' release etc etc. Proper revolutionary. It's played across so many platforms by so many people. The fact that kids spend 10s of hours each week just WATCHING YouTube videos of this thing is mind-boggling.
It's had the biggest effect on real culture outside of the VG niche since.... dunno - Space Invaders? 

Staggering game. 

Of course 1. I've never played it and 2. MS will fuck it up.

No, Wii Remore was the revolution. That's all there is too it. Nintendo wouldn't have called it that without a reason.

It wouldnt likely trouble my top 5 all time list, but so much of the (yes, this word) RPGIFICATION of non-rpg games (and I'm including destiny in this) to me stems from Modern Warfare. And the influence it has had on the face of videogames is absolute and apparent. It felt like a turning point for videogames further into mass-cultural acceptance, ascribed to 2007-08 by old Stants in his book iirc.
It also got as close as you can to the widespread use of a game in popular parlance "playing cod" as much cultural slang for videogames as "Nintendo" was in the 80s home console market boom. So, I'd say that's our most recent cultural and gaming revolution, in whatever context that's defined as. Certainly, it was a large shift away from the previously prevalent paradigms of Quake 3, UT or even something like Rainbow Six 3 on oldbox.
The layering of level systems, matched with skill-based ones (your killstreaks) meant that really any player could feel that positive sense of progression.

You mean Minecraft though right reg? Just you've typed in CoD there.

WorKid wrote:

You mean Minecraft though right reg? Just you've typed in CoD there.

Ive never really given much time to Minecraft, and not being a parent yet, or having desire myself to do it, I've never really swam in those circles. I'm aware of its cultural phenom obviously, but can't say the twitch channels have ever been on in H household. Not in any way devaluing it. Just one I've got not enough knowledge in to wade in with jackboots and comment on.

g.man wrote:

WorKid wrote:

Isn't CoD just videogame armies?

Nope. CoD changed everything.

Ruling out anything outside of videogames as an influence seems odd to me.

If we're talking very recent times, then yes CoD. Both for what it did and then what it became.

Beyond that (and Minecraft) there ain't nothing new under the sun since about 2000.