Edge's top 20 of the last 20 years - The Bear and Badger

regmcfly

Okay. Here's my proper 10. Paper was used to whittle this down.

Metal Gear Solid 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Resident Evil 4
We Heart Katamari
Pro Evo 4
Super Mario Galaxy
C&C Red Alert
Batman Arkham Asylum
Grim Fandango
Blast Corps

DONE

Bollockoff

I should really have put Okami in. It's my favourite Zelda.

Hulka T

Were MGS2 &3 that different?
I thought the first was the best.

davyK

Saturn Bomberman should probably get pushed onto my list.

regmcfly

Hulka T wrote:

Were MGS2 &3 that different? I thought the first was the best.

Yep, in terms of worlds, themes and so on. It's no shock that I'm utterly enamoured with the MGS universe, and I doubt many people here would have MGS2 on their list. But hey, it's my list

cindemon

cindemon wrote:

Well a year ago I wrote...

No particular oder of greatness, just greatness. Super Mario Bro's 3 - NES Mario 64 - N64 Half Life 2 - PC Beautiful Katamari - 360 Dark Souls - 360 Shadow of the Colossus - PS2 Super Mario Kart - SNES Metal Gear Solid 3 - PS2 Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube Majora's Mask - N64 Honourable nods to Vice City, Golden Eye, Halo Series, Ico, Batman AA, Elite & tbh a fuck ton more. Edit: Fuck I needed to bang a Pokemon game in there somewhere.

Playing by the rules, its laters to SMB3, Elite & Supa Maza Kart & hello to.... Mario 64 - N64 Half Life 2 - PC Beautiful Katamari - 360 Dark Souls - 360 Shadow of the Colossus - PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3 - PS2 Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube Majora's Mask - N64 GTA: Vice City - PS2 Goldeneye - N64. Again, in no order, but if pushed Dark Souls/Mario 64 would rule them all.

When I fired this off to Edge I realised I had to put it into order. Was harder that I thought it would be, but this is how it ended after some heavy thinking.

1) Mario 64 - N64
2) Dark Souls - 360
3) Half Life 2 - PC
4) Majora's Mask - N64
5) Metal Gear Solid 3 - PS2
6) Goldeneye - N64
7) Shadow of the Colossus - PS2
8.) Resident Evil 4 - Gamecube
9) GTA: Vice City - PS2
10) Beautiful Katamari - 360

mistercrayon

regmcfly wrote:

Hulka T wrote:

Were MGS2 &3 that different? I thought the first was the best.

Yep, in terms of worlds, themes and so on. It's no shock that I'm utterly enamoured with the MGS universe, and I doubt many people here would have MGS2 on their list. But hey, it's my list

MGS 1 is well similar to MGS2 ;-)

Vela

My attempt at a top ten, which will likely undergo further revisions.

Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
Super Mario Galaxy
Chrono Trigger
Animal Crossing
Metal Gear Solid 3
Beyond Good and Evil
WipEout 2097
GoldenEye
Super Monkey Ball
Worms

Genuinely fighting over whether and where to consider OOT, RE4, Portal, SMG2, Oddworld Stranger, Rez, Soul Calibur and oh god this is impossible

Hulka T

Ah I never finished Chronotrigger. Its currently in my 3DS and I always mean to load it up. Im sure i'll be lost...

Dubs

Dark Soldier wrote:

No Trials, Dubs?

Lists. Could easily put SMG, Trials and Ninja Gaiden: Black in there. I suppose OoT should be there if it is a "what you thought was good at the time" thing.

Vela

Hulka T wrote:

Ah I never finished Chronotrigger. Its currently in my 3DS and I always mean to load it up. Im sure i'll be lost...

First time through took me 25 hours. Very easy RPG but I guess you need to know where youre up to. I played it for the first time ever in 2009. Still a phenomenal title.

mistercrayon

In no particular order

1 - Deus Ex
2 - System Shock 2
3 - Pokemon Red
4 - Wii Sports
5 - Metal Gear Solid 4
6 - Super Mario Allstars
7 - Fifa 98 (pc)
8 - Bioshock
9 - Vice City
10 - Wario Ware Twisted.

Hulka T

Yeah I was liking it, cant remember why I stopped but I get stuck easy on RPGs for stupid stuff like 'I didnt see that door right there!'

Vela

Hulka T wrote:

Yeah I was liking it, cant remember why I stopped but I get stuck easy on RPGs for stupid stuff like 'I didnt see that door right there!'

I had a few moments like that in the game, I'm dumb like that too (and in Zelda games). I remember a few times where I didnt know which time zone to go to and who to see, but I never got frustrated with it. Even unnecessary battles didnt grate in CT.

regmcfly

Here's mine ordered, as per Edge's request -

10. Pro Evo 4
9. Batman Arkham Asylum
8. Command And Conquer: Red Alert
7. Metal Gear Solid 2
6. Grim Fandango
5. We Heart Katamari
4. Super Mario Galaxy
3. Blast Corps
2. Resident Evil 4
1. Metal Gear Solid 3

Frosty

Probably miss something but I'm just going to go for it off the top of my head. Will need to reorder them once I've thought about it.

10. The Curse of Monkey island
9. Half Life
8. Final Fantasy IX
7. Pokemon Red
6. Halo 2
5. Knights of the Old Republic
4. World of Warcraft
3. Metal gear Solid 3
2. Resident Evil 4
1. Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain

Can't believe Links Awakening misses out by two months because it came out in Japan in June 93.

Frosty

Arse. I forgot about Oblivion even though I hate it and Dark Souls which is the Official Best Game Ever.

EDIT: Why doesn't superscript work?

Dogfingers

Bollocks I forgot Geom Wars 2

mistercrayon

KOTOR. I missed KOTOR!

Revised, with annotations

1 - Deus Ex
- Two stand out elements for me. Firstly the bit on the plane where you decide to take the moral highground and shoot your boss to save a prisoner or obey your boss, the fact the game progresses seamlessly from this point makes you feel like you have real agency in the narrative in the plot. The second is more subtle at the beginning of the game you put in your real name and are told your code name is JC Denton, you are called JC through the whole game by the cast, then, you read some innocuous news bulletin and what, I'm a terrorist! not JCD anymore but me, kunal! Jaw dropping.

2 - System Shock 2

Deus Ex's mum/dad. Games today are overrun with zombies but this game makes you feel sorry for them and unnerved as they distortedly scream "kill me" as you smash a wrench in their face. Horrific.

3 - Pokemon Red

The first time you play the game everything is special, the 8 gym formula had not become tired and all that and every pokemon is potentially a team winner.

4 - Wii Sports

The only game my dad has played with a reasonable chance of success and an excellent game because of it.

5 - Metal Gear Solid 4

My first metal gear played to a finish.

6 - Knights of the Old Republic.

7 - Braid.

Take the Super Mario Bros plot, then add a time travel mechanic. Smash it out of the park by taking the time travel mechanic and inverting the plot. Genius.

8 - Bioshock

Andrew asked me kindly to put this in.

9 - Vice City

Basically that effect that the camera can't keep up with leaving a trail of light that was in every top of the pops from the eighties.

10 - Wario Ware Twisted.

That rotating Super Mario Bros. level! Making motion control the most controllable ever by including that buzzing motor.

Yossarian

Actually, Worms would definitely have to be in mine too. As would Streets of Rage and Street Fighter 2. So, my current list looks something like:

1. Halo
2. Street Fighter 2
3. Worms
4. Streets of Rage
5 - 10 some other games.

With all of those games that are series, just pick one that's within the allotted time period, although I could probably squeeze at least one more Halo title in there if I tried.

hylian_elf

regmcfly wrote:

Here's mine ordered, as per Edge's request - 10. Pro Evo 4 9. Batman Arkham Asylum 8. Command And Conquer: Red Alert 7. Metal Gear Solid 2 6. Grim Fandango 5. We Heart Katamari 4. Super Mario Galaxy 3. Blast Corps 2. Resident Evil 4 1. Metal Gear Solid 3

They want it in descending order of greatness. Doesn't that mean best at the top?

hylian_elf

Yossarian wrote:

Actually, Worms would definitely have to be in mine too. As would Streets of Rage and Street Fighter 2. So, my current list looks something like: 1. Halo 2. Street Fighter 2 3. Worms 4. Streets of Rage 5 - 10 some other games. With all of those games that are series, just pick one that's within the allotted time period, although I could probably squeeze at least one more Halo title in there if I tried.

SF2 and SoR are too old for the list.

hylian_elf

Dubs wrote:

Dark Soldier wrote:

No Trials, Dubs?

Lists. Could easily put SMG, Trials and Ninja Gaiden: Black in there. I suppose OoT should be there if it is a "what you thought was good at the time" thing.

I took Edge's requirement to mean that it is a "what you thought was good at the time" thing.

Yossarian

Haven't we established that SF2T is acceptable? (although I'd probably rather have SSF2T, and maybe even the HD Remix). And I'll take SoR3 if SoR2 is too early even if we're going by the European release.

hylian_elf

Sf2t is fine but not sf2, and sor2 is definitely too old.

Yossarian

I wrote:

With all of those games that are series, just pick one that's within the allotted time period.

hylian_elf

Yossarian wrote:

I wrote:

With all of those games that are series, just pick one that's within the allotted time period.

Yes, yes, I read that, but you have to submit best games, not best series. Are you saying all the Halo games are as best as each other?

Yossarian

Yes.

But seriously, I can't really be arsed to give it that much thought. Those four series are the ones which have managed to give me the most joy in whatever iteration they may be in for the longest parts of the last twenty years.

hylian_elf

Yeah, I know what you mean. I can't decide between Mario 64 and Mario Galaxy. Gonna probably settle on M64 for being 'revolutionary'.

davyK

Yossarian wrote:

Haven't we established that SF2T is acceptable? (although I'd probably rather have SSF2T, and maybe even the HD Remix). And I'll take SoR3 if SoR2 is too early even if we're going by the European release.

Hyper Steetfighter 2 Anniversary would be in the frame - and I'm pretty sure it made Edge's last top 100 ever - it lets you face off Champ edition Ryu against SSF2T Ken etc. It was on PS2 and oldBox and I think the oldBox version had online.

But I suppose that isn't in the spirit of this list if you haven't actually played that game?

Will have to add Worms Armageddon and Saturn Bomberman onto my list = Oshaberi Parodius and R-Type FInal may be the casualties.

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