Edge's top 20 of the last 20 years - The Bear and Badger

Mal0wner

beano wrote:

Good man Mal'.

I hadn't even read your post. Nearly didn't think of Minecraft as it sometime seems more like a separate hobby/pastime than a video game.

tigersgogrrr

I forgot SOR2?!!?!

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Streets of Rage2
I thought of that but it's '92.

Edit: '93 Eu, dammit too many games

Fentonizer

I'd put Metal Gear Solid in in place of something else if I could be bothered.

Or MGS3.

I honestly have never thought about which one I think is better.

tigersgogrrr

Liveinadive wrote:

Streets of Rage2 I thought of that but it's '92. Edit: '93 Eu, dammit too many games

Phew.

fullspectrum

Streets of Rage is a poor man's Final Fight. Sorry but it just is.

Anticipating plenty of

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at this statement

Yossarian

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

hylian_elf

My list of just-outside-the-list, any one of which could make it in by a swap:
Okami
Bayonetta
Street Fighter IV
Yoshi's Island (different enough to Mario 64)

fullspectrum

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

Played it through with Cosby the other day (FF). I think I enjoyed it more than him.

Also Tiddlywinks has nuff depth so that's a complement. You'd have to know your squop from your gromp to appreciate that though.

Keeyop

fullspectrum wrote:

Streets of Rage is a poor man's Final Fight. Sorry but it just is

I still prefer Double Dragon II

hylian_elf

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

I asked my MD owning friend over the weekend about SoR. He said they were a bit better than other games in the genre, but ultimately still shallow and repetitive brawlers. His opinion and all, but I guess I'm back to having no desire whatsoever to play the series. Just listen to the music instead.

Yossarian

fullspectrum wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

Played it through with Cosby the other day (FF). I think I enjoyed it more than him.

And SoR2 for comparison?

Yossarian

hylian_elf wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

I asked my MD owning friend over the weekend about SoR. He said they were a bit better than other games in the genre, but ultimately still shallow and repetitive brawlers. His opinion and all, but I guess I'm back to having no desire whatsoever to play the series. Just listen to the music instead.

Depends whether or not you enjoy brawlers. Playing SoR with my brother when growing up are one of my fondest gaming memories and we still break them out in occasion for co-op runs.

hylian_elf

Yeah, my mate and I used to while away our school lunchtimes on them, when not playing Street Fighter or Samurai Shodown or KoF etc

tigersgogrrr

fullspectrum wrote:

Streets of Rage is a poor man's Final Fight. Sorry but it just is.

I know you love dat Metro City but... I'm sorry, Nick.

Final Fight = Street Fighter.
Streets of Rage = Street Fighter 2.

They took the core idea of Final Fight and, um, made it better in every respect.

Hylian, I played the SORemake the other week. It's amazing (despite some shonky vehicle levels) and plays really well in co-op. Shout outs to Golden Axe which has a special place in my heart, but it wasn't in the same league as SOR.

That genre was so good.

regmcfly

Fuck I feel like I should have MW on there. Edge lobbies were one of my favourite things this gen, and that level in the Russian apartments.

Yossarian

tigerswiftly wrote:

fullspectrum wrote:

Streets of Rage is a poor man's Final Fight. Sorry but it just is.

I know you love dat Metro City but... I'm sorry, Nick. Final Fight = Street Fighter. Streets of Rage = Street Fighter 2. They took the core idea of Final Fight and, um, made it better in every respect. Hylian, I played the SORemake the other week. It's amazing (despite some shonky vehicle levels) and plays really well in co-op. Shout outs to Golden Axe which has a special place in my heart, but it wasn't in the same league as SOR. That genre was so good.

Golden Axe was in exactly the same league as Final Fight and Double Dragon, especially if you compare the moves available (in Golden Axe, swap out the dragons for the weapons you could pick up in the others).

JonB

We went through a load of scrolling beat 'em ups a few weeks ago in the retro thread. They all suffer to some extent with repetitiveness, but SoR2 is least bad offender and overall the daddy by some distance. I remember how impressed I was when I first saw FF in an arcade, but it's aged badly and is pretty basic in comparison.

regmcfly

Cadillacs and Dinosaurs

Drops mic

fullspectrum

Yossarian wrote:

fullspectrum wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

Played it through with Cosby the other day (FF). I think I enjoyed it more than him.

And SoR2 for comparison?

No but I appreciate it had special moves which is pretty cool. My sentiment is based on just that, sentimentality, but the art/music/characters/attitude of FF wins all day.

hylian_elf

Re: SoR2. I promised myself I would play it after the last time Yoss and I got into this debate. Then recently I read the RetroGamer best-MD-games article where SoR2 came top, and they did such a terrible job of trying to make the game sound good. Then my mate. I'll try and put some time in soon so that I can see for myself.

fullspectrum

tigerswiftly wrote:

fullspectrum wrote:

Streets of Rage is a poor man's Final Fight. Sorry but it just is.

I know you love dat Metro City but... I'm sorry, Nick. Final Fight = Street Fighter. Streets of Rage = Street Fighter 2. They took the core idea of Final Fight and, um, made it better in every respect. Hylian, I played the SORemake the other week. It's amazing (despite some shonky vehicle levels) and plays really well in co-op. Shout outs to Golden Axe which has a special place in my heart, but it wasn't in the same league as SOR. That genre was so good.

I'll take that but the latter part of the previous post stands.

hylian_elf

Nick, can't remember the soundtrack for FF, but SoR2 has one of the best soundtracks EVER. I love it, and I've never played the series!

JonB

regmcfly wrote:

Cadillacs and Dinosaurs Drops mic

Played that recently too. Was decent.

Yossarian

hylian_elf wrote:

Re: SoR2. I promised myself I would play it after the last time Yoss and I got into this debate. Then recently I read the RetroGamer best-MD-games article where SoR2 came top, and they did such a terrible job of trying to make the game sound good. Then my mate. I'll try and put some time in soon so that I can see for myself.

Find another Badger who lives nearby and get in the same room together. It's the only way to do it.

fullspectrum wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

fullspectrum wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

Have you played both games recently? Final Fight has got about as much depth as tiddlywinks.

Played it through with Cosby the other day (FF). I think I enjoyed it more than him.

And SoR2 for comparison?

No but I appreciate it had special moves which is pretty cool. My sentiment is based on just that, sentimentality, but the art/music/characters/attitude of FF wins all day.

It had a lot more than special moves.

RedDave2

I'll go with the following - There's better games now to be sure but these are the games that really grabbed me over the years. There's a strong theme of multiplayer running through most of them.

Sensible Soccer (amiga)
Super Mario Kart (snes)
Street Fighter 2 Turbo (snes)
Streets of Rage 2 (megadrive)
Goldeneye (n64)
Guitar Hero 3 (ps3 / 360)
Pro Evo 6 (ps2)
Batman - Arkham City (360)
Call of Duty 4 (ps3 version)
Football Manager 2005 (pc)

The best ten? No, but at various points these games all received insane amounts of hours. I still play 3 of them (Batman, FM2005 & GH3) and variations of others (COD, SF2).

fullspectrum

Like? (Yoss)

hylian_elf

JonB wrote:

We went through a load of scrolling beat 'em ups a few weeks ago in the retro thread. They all suffer to some extent with repetitiveness, but SoR2 is least bad offender and overall the daddy by some distance. I remember how impressed I was when I first saw FF in an arcade, but it's aged badly and is pretty basic in comparison.

As I said in that thread (rhyme, yo!), I need to take part a lot more!

JonB

Jeez, where were all you chaps when we were playing all the scrolling beat 'em ups in the retro thread? Could have had a much better conversation going.

Edit: Not you specifically, Elf.

Yossarian

fullspectrum wrote:

Like? (Yoss)

Pair moves that could be executed between two players, actual moves with weapons beyond hitting someone and watching them fall over (unless you were Xan) and a generally far wider range of standard hits (such as a jump kick that you could use to stun an opponent and set them up for a combo), throws and combos.

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