the windwaker love suprises me most so far in this thread.

Also hardly any MD titles or any much in the way of handheld titles. I thought some DC games might make an appearance too like Crazy Taxi.

mk64 wrote:

the windwaker love suprises me most so far in this thread. Also hardly any MD titles or any much in the way of handheld titles. I thought some DC games might make an appearance too like Crazy Taxi.

The consoles before Sony entered the market were great, but Sega especially were very arcade game focussed. It made the machine the star for me rather than individual games from that period.

hylian_elf wrote:

Mass Effect was average at best.

Have to agree there. I completed and enjoyed all three games but I just wasen't wowed by the end. It's just a run of the mill America in space adventure. ME 2 has some moments that really shine, mainly to do with characterization like Mordin studying human culture. But it's diamonds in mucky mediocrity.

ME 3 had decent MP though.

adkm1979 wrote:

Mouldywarp Advance Wars (GBA) Ikaruga Mario 64 (N64) Mario Galaxy (Wii) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) Donkey Kong Country (N64) Dark Souls Final Fantasy VII (PS1) Okami Goemon (N64)

It was SNES Donkey Kong Country, but it doesn't matter anymore because I'm switching it out for Ico. Was stupid not to include it. The game seems to have layers of subtext that speak to me on a  subconscious level - I sort of feel like I know what it's all about but can't quite put it into words.

@Tempy regarding OoT, I really understand what you're saying about "conditioning". It's something that winds me up no end with all kinds of other things like music (The Beatles were shit) to film (James Cameron has never made a good one). I would love to not have OoT in my top ten but if I omitted it I'd be lying. I've played it numerous times, as a kid and as an adult actively studying the design and I've thought long and hard about whether or not it is that good. For me, personally, it is. Although I think Wind Waker had a better art style, atmosphere and mythology, I just don't think the actual design is as tight.

Mine is more about the games that have affected me on some level and that tied into my enjoyment of them. Not just because they're fun, which is how I've found the majority of games in this generation.

Mine have been about pure enjoyment with an eye to craftmanship and the fact that I still find them playable.

I think it is indicative of the quality of the company here that newer games are not overloaded as most "feature lists" or those arising from polls tend to suffer from. It's just too early though I do agree with the lack of charm with the "big" games now - but maybe that's a generational thing kicking in.

Sony and Microsoft have made their not inconsiderable and applaudable mark at the expense of Sega unfortunately. And poor old Atari never made it out of the pioneer stage. It was a heady time when Atari and their peers were in their prime - walking into an arcade then you could be sure a new genre would be waiting to be discovered. Someone mentioned Star Wars Arcade earlier - what an experience that was in the early 80s.

Mouldywarp wrote:

@Tempy regarding OoT, I really understand what you're saying about "conditioning". It's something that winds me up no end with all kinds of other things like music (The Beatles were shit) to film (James Cameron has never made a good one). I would love to not have OoT in my top ten but if I omitted it I'd be lying. I've played it numerous times, as a kid and as an adult actively studying the design and I've thought long and hard about whether or not it is that good. For me, personally, it is. Although I think Wind Waker had a better art style, atmosphere and mythology, I just don't think the actual design is as tight.

Your summation of Wind Waker is why I prefer it. Which is weird because I usually prefer tight mechanics and design to fluff, but WW's fluff is brilliant and a few weak dungeons is tempered by it being so gleefully different.

I like The Beatles but I don't really care about them.

I'd put Fire Emblem before Advance Wars

Being dismissive of the Beatles ITF.

I'll give you my Mrs fave games MK, to satisfy your curiosity. These are in no order apart from 1.

1. LEGACY OF KAIN (ENTIRE SERIES, ALL OF IT, EVEN THE ONE AT THE END THAT WAS ASS)
2. Soul Calibur (none of the sequels, SC1 only)
3. Star Wars Galaxies
4. Crazy Taxi
5. Fallout 3
6. Futurama
7. The Old Republic

In no particular order.

Smash Bros Melee - For the split screen multiplayer. 

Oot - Had to be really, the first Zelda I played and still the best. 

Goldenye - Again, split screen multiplayer. 5 or 6 people, give up your controller when you die. golden gun, power weapons and instant kill settings, proximity mines, rockets... so many ways of playing, so much fun. 

Half Life 2 - Lots and lots of stand out set pieces. No video game has made me more tense than Ravenholm. 

Age of Mythology - The first RTS game I played and the first game I took online. More hours than I'd care to admit have been pumped into this

Starcraft 2 - Am I allowed to have a game on this list that I've watched other people play more than I've played myself? 

Counter Strike Source - I was always pretty bad, but this had me hooked for about 18 months. 

Halo 3 - My first online console game. Any game which rewards skill enough that I'm never killed by Shyam is a very good game.

Pro Evolution Soccer - Could be any of the series to be honest. Each one up till about 2009 was played to death.

Championship Manager 01/02 - Don't know how to pick a champ man but this was the first I played so it wins. Oh and genius text commentary.


3 of these games have been primarily single player experiences, the rest have all been multiplayer, either local or online. That fits with my gaming habits nowadays, apart from enjoying SMG2 over the last couple of months, I barely touch singleplayer.

Knight wrote:

In no particular order.

Smash Bros Melee - For the split screen multiplayer. 

? - a typo surely? ain't no such thing....Smash Bros does the zoomy thing. Melee has been played to death in our house - especially when four are gathered.

MattyJ wrote:

I could've filled more slots with current games easily, but wanted a representation of my gaming life.

I could have easily filled every slot from this gen with games I know I love, but also felt the need to dig back a bit, though I worry memory is rose tinting some of them, like GTA, Zelda or GT. Fairly certain I wouldn't have the patience for any of them nowadays.

mk64 wrote:

Also interested to know who has played Advance Wars but didn't put that into their top ten.

I've played it, loved it. But I'm more into immersive worlds and narratives and all that malarkey for my best games.

Yup, Advance Wars is superb but it doesn't have the things I love most about gaming.