Best Games Evarrr! [OP updated 13/01/15] - The Bear and Badger

davyK

The 360 pad is nice but the dpad is possessed. It seems to work OK with shmups but try and play Pacman CE with it.

davyK

davyK wrote:

My list in order then:
1. Tetris This will be played by people 100 years from now. The version doesn't matter. There are better puzzle games (Puyo Puyo for example) but nothing matches Tetris for accessibility. It is equally good in multi-player, and it can be as casual or as hardcore as you like (see Tetris Grandmaster).

2. Super Monkey Ball Gorgeous control and level design in the main game + years of replay in the mini games in single and multi-player mode all wrapped up in solid and charming graphics.

3. Super Mario World It has its rivals (SMB3, Yoshi's Island and the new 2D upstarts) but this is still unsurpassed in terms of depth, charm, control and replayability.

4. F-Zero X For the sheer rush of racing with spot on difficulty balance nothing comes close. The health vs speed trade off is a brilliant update to the original. Splendid multi-player, Death race and hardcore TT modes back up the main game. I triple dipped this game - have the PAL, JPN and WiiVC versions such is my love of this.

5. Worms Armageddon Turn-based mechanic makes for superbly vindictive play laced with humour and tactics. Infinitely replayable with the level designer and large weapon set.

6. Saturn Bomberman Definitive version of the finest same screen multi-player game ever. Modes and options galore including an impractical 10 player mode and an addictive Solitaire score attack mode.

7. Super Mario 64. My head says Galaxy is better but this has better replayability, tighter level design (yet at the same time feels more open) and more charm.

8. Warlords This would be alongside Bomberman as a multi-player game if there was a convenient way of playing this on a modern system. The Atari 2600 version has the paddle controllers and that is the only way to play this.

9. Mario Kart DD - 2 players per kart offers scope for team building. LAN mode. The Baby Park track offers Roman chariot racing.

10. Mushihimesama Futari Best 2D shmup I have ever played. Addictive as hell scoring scheme and loads of modes squeezed into 5 levels ranging from the too easy Novice Mode right up to God mode.

List fixed. Thought I had included Monkey Ball.

[Deleted User]

davyK wrote:

The 360 pad is nice but the dpad is possessed. It seems to work OK with shmups but try and play Pacman CE with it.

The new transformer d pad is much better, not that I use the d-pad much.

IanHamlett

If it wasn't for SFIV I don't think my PS3 dpad would've been used outside menus and if I was more serious about SFIV I would've got a fight stick. If it's gonna be there, I'd rather it was a good one though.

davyK

I only got a 360 for shmups and a handful of XBL retro reduxes. Will pick up an arcade stick at some point for it.

Trials HD makes magnificent use of the 360 pad and is deserving of a top 10 place but I just haven't played enough of it.

retroking1981

davyK wrote:

List fixed. Thought I had included Monkey Ball.

What made way for Monkey Ball out of interest?

IanHamlett

The N64 FZero had tracks so wide you could be driving sideways and not notice, and a draw distance shorter than the distance I can actually physically draw with my hand. Rebranding 40mph as 784mph doesn't make it fast. The GC version was just better.

[Deleted User]

Nah mate, you're way off.

retroking1981

No way, F-Zero X forever!

Either way we could do with a new entry, its a great series.

IanHamlett

Liveinadive wrote:

Nah mate, you're way off.

Alight, an opinion is an opinion, but the draw distance, speed, and track width thing are just facts.

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IanHamlett wrote:

Nah mate, you're way off.

Alight, an opinion is an opinion, but the draw distance, speed, and track width thing are just facts.

Nah mate, naaaaaaaah!

To be fair I likely would have prefered GX but they made it too hard for it's own good.

davyK

retroking1981 wrote:

davyK wrote:

List fixed. Thought I had included Monkey Ball.

What made way for Monkey Ball out of interest?

Tempest 2000. Best update of an old game I have seen in many a long time. Pity Minter hasn't really got over that though.

davyK

IanHamlett wrote:

Liveinadive wrote:

Nah mate, you're way off.

Alight, an opinion is an opinion, but the draw distance, speed, and track width thing are just facts.

There are wide tracks but there were some narrow bastards too. The draw distance was never an issue as it didn't affect the section of track you were on - pop up was always 2 or 3 turns away.

The lack of background was an issue for some as it affected the impression of speed for them. Wasn't an issue for me. A stupendous game. GX is lovely but the difficulty wrung the fun out of it and those transparant casino tracks were hard to make out.

JonB

F-Zero X definitely could've benefitted from some more graphical oomph to get the draw distance up, but it was basically perfect. Some of the tracks were wide? Yeah, they would be the really easy ones at the beginning, surprisingly.

ChopperByrne

It always annoyed me that the GC pad didn't have four shoulder buttons.

Z was over the R trigger, but nothing was over L.

They should have had a ZL and ZR.

Other than that, a very comfortable pad to use with a great analog stick.

People are also forgetting Rogue Leader, arguably the best Star Wars game ever.

GX > X all day.

adkm1979

ChopperByrne wrote:

People are also forgetting Rogue Leader, arguably the best Star Wars game ever.

What little I played of that impressed me.

My mate also had a football game on his Cube, possibly ISS, and the penalty controls were amongst the best I've experienced for two player.

Facewon

Had a GC pad that I got for my wii so I could play Metriod. Never got around to 2, but Prime is sublime. Controller was a bit shit though. Fine for Prime, but felt odd.

Big xbox controller I quite liked at first, as I have big hands, but the s-controller was top notch. There's a reason the last two iterations haven't strayed far from it.

Agree re the piracy angle on the cube also. I nabbed a chipped xbox from the trading post for $450 all in with 10 games. halo, Hitman, Ghost recon, amongst others, good times. My house mate got one too just before I moved in with him, and the xbox was rock solid for lan titles. Buying double ups of LAN games meant a lack of live didn't bother us for a long time.

retroking1981

ChopperByrne wrote:

It always annoyed me that the GC pad didn't have four shoulder buttons.

Z was over the R trigger, but nothing was over L.

They should have had a ZL and ZR.

Sony had a patent on 4 shoulder buttons and symmetrical analogs, hence GCN and XBox or DC for that matter having neither.

adkm1979

I just remembered how much I loved Jak & Daxter. I don't think it can quite squeeze into my top ten, but it's certainly a very honourable mention.

Facewon

Fuck, that's a fair call. Never finished the Ps3 outing, but the first 2 on ps2 were great. Gta lite on the second wasn't as bloated as it could have been, so it was still fun.

Paul the sparky

Loved the first one, one for me and the boy to play through when he becomes less useless at things.

I mean, who the fuck uses a finger on a thumbstick?!

hylian_elf

I was in the Ratchet and Clank camp myself, whilst my mate was a Jak fan. Really not sure why I never played the Jak games, certainly the first couple look great.

regmcfly

Paul the sparky wrote:

Loved the first one, one for me and the boy to play through when he becomes less useless at things.

I mean, who the fuck uses a finger on a thumbstick?!

Scrub league for that noob

[Deleted User]

In a couple of years he'll be ready to make salacious comments about people's mothers on CoD.

adkm1979

Spent some time on Wikipedia last night and realised what a hard-on I've had for Naughty Dog, and the games some of their former staff went on to make.

RamSteelwood

SWOS 96/97 and Cannon Fodder 1 + 2 are on sale on GoG this weekend, about £1.19 each i think....

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