LazyGunn wrote:

I really do not want there to be a sequel to this game. But it would be interesting to see how Ellie panned out, given those experiences.

They've already said its the end of the story so i dont think you have any worries there, but i would like another game in the series, that possibly did allow you to see how their future panned out. But only in passing, maybe the next game is like 30/40 years down the line so we can see how Joels decision panned out for the human race as a whole, and then have a passage of the game set around the Tommys city in the future and If the gameplay is similiar have artifacts smattered around that filling in some gaps as to what happened to them, i think that would be pretty cool. But yeah no direct sequel of Joel and Ellie off on more adventures.

I was reading this earlier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/14/arts/video-games/in-the-video-game-the-last-of-us-survival-favors-the-man.html?pagewanted=all

What do you guys think?

I really disagree, in no way was  Ellie cast in a subordinate role, sure you didnt play her as much, but for me personally i thought it was very much her story as much as it was Joels, in face more so in my eyes, the main beats, the sensational Winter segment was all hers.

I'd like sequels maybe continuing from the end point of the first game, no 'origins' story, just how hat world develops, with Joel and Ellie and supporting cast from the first game forgotten in the wider options available from such a situation. Sad to see them go, but they left on a perfect note. Time to go to other parts of the planet. They could make some bold moves into well written 'imagination stuff'

I DUN GETTIT

Explain!

sounds like a good spinoff for the kinect, somehow

When they petted the giraffe i was thinking 'giraffes can be violent, one whack from that things head and the game's over'

A miniboss as a deranged angry giraffe could add a whole new level of meaning to the game

I thought you'd say something like that, but, i dunno it's not well argued, it has some stodgy gamepay sure, the plot hits notes we've seen before, but in gaming, producing something that you could come away from a cinema and think 'that was a decent film' is one fine thing - the fact it was technically and in the realm of gaming, artistically brilliant speaks loads

Its the high watermark for now, it may be beaten, but the fact you skipped the entire thing to see the ending says plenty, when it could only be appreciated by enjoying the full trip

You dislike games about humans, but lumping it in with your legitimate complaints about bioshock is just a bit weak, fact is its a great story, great game apart from a samey third, and genuinely daring, esp against a mainstream audience

So poo on you

I get you but i cant see any revolution coming that will automatically get the masses even considering the medium as 'arty', and this was a painful growing phase that film and even vinyl went though. This game is definitely a compromise to try and reconcile what people expect and what they wanted to say, and did it much better than binf. It should be celebrated for that and you should allow yourself to be drawn in without a cynical sneer. There are daring things in this game, there is passion put into this game, and i think it deserves recognition, perhaps forevermore, for being one of the most significant stepping stones created to, as said, reconcile the gamers twitch with his emotional response

We might be some way off some perfect resolution to this, but because we are, we should enjoy it when it comes

I like your expectations, but you expect too much right now

I can imagine seeing that in the new Badass movie.

Also, industry that makes huge deal and buxxx about quality/quantity of violence locates novel flavour of violence, hmm.

Which... is why I don't think it's a narratively brave decision? I mean at very least, suppose they'd swapped the genders of the leads. They really could've, it's not like they were beyond writing not-awful womanotypes up in here.

It's competent within its zone, it's not actually risky. We can agree that the whole context supports blunt aggression and desperation, at least, so it doesn't jar, but I'm still left wondering what else they could've done to make a well-worn post-apoc-fuckworld-zombietime a bit less of a foregone event.

Swapping genders would've been more risky, considering the expense and the status (realising my last post looked like I was suggesting a switch's impact on that scene alone, soz.)

I cant personally think of anything that has entered mainstream media that has been as questionable as that, but on being questionable, been rationalised

A misfiring engine room accentuated by some quality writing is unilateral progress.

The pity is that it failed to offer me Uncharted 2's mechanical rewards for self-improvement. Practice makes perfect as a game model struggles to exist in a zed-'em-up with narrative congruity. Uncharted games are bullet hell in comparison.

It's a definite cut and shut.

Escape makes less sense than brooks these days, who'da though

I find picking on the acting strange as i found it certainly satisfactory, and picking on rules as relativism... theres a shitload id love to subject the public to that would get it banned instantly, but in the slow creep to getting some sensible issues communicated (a 14 year old is amused not reduced to terror by porno mag) i still cant see why you folks cant respect what the game has done in the wider realm of making the medium less juvenile and more capable of evoking genuine human responses

As much as i love the low profile low sales indie scene, if you arent to get behind something like this (While being moved by elizabeths plight i uphold brooks' criticisms regarding that other game) then its going to be hard to get the modus operandi of a title like this widely adopted

Id rather a gathering of sceptics recognise the good bits grudgingly than consistently attack the form because its still controlled with a joypad and you are still encouraged to shoot people in the head