AJ_ wrote:

Tell me about how difficult it is and how much you have to repeat when you die.

what platform? on PC it has the ye olde f5 to quicksave and f9 to quickload so with sensible saving, not a lot

also a word on difficulty, i'm playing it on normal and its not hard enough, like, you have to think like hell (And thinking is the main thing, you do have to crouch out of sight somewhere and scope a location and figure out how you're going to tackle it), but it's not so hard in the end, i tend to just reload if i'm discovered because that means combat and i dont want to kill anyone

i would genuinely recommend playing it on normal at least, and probably its better on a harder difficulty setting, both thinking and doing willbe properly stretched

I read there isnt a New Game + mode. Upsetting. I would like a mode where you couldnt save mid level, thus having to deal with any fuck up you make. I dont really agree with

LazyGunn wrote:

i tend to just reload if i'm discovered

That goes against the purpose of these style of games. Thats for a second play through.

At least you can hide the mission markers.

Deus ex was really boring.

LazyGunn wrote:

Tell me about how difficult it is and how much you have to repeat when you die.

what platform? on PC it has the ye olde f5 to quicksave and f9 to quickload so with sensible saving, not a lot also a word on difficulty, i'm playing it on normal and its not hard enough, like, you have to think like hell (And thinking is the main thing, you do have to crouch out of sight somewhere and scope a location and figure out how you're going to tackle it), but it's not so hard in the end, i tend to just reload if i'm discovered because that means combat and i dont want to kill anyone i would genuinely recommend playing it on normal at least, and probably its better on a harder difficulty setting, both thinking and doing willbe properly stretched

I play pretty much everything on 360. Not that that's particularly relevant as I don't manually save any time except when I want to stop playing mid-level.

I'm fine with the thinking bit, in fact I like that, but if I have to restart at the beginning of the level for a little fuck up half way through, I won't bother.

I shouldn't have said "little" fuck up, really. When I fuck up, it tends to be big. Wikipedia says it has a checkpoint system, but not how far apart they are. Is there anything in the game to indicate it?

AJ_ wrote:

I shouldn't have said "little" fuck up, really. When I fuck up, it tends to be big. Wikipedia says it has a checkpoint system, but not how far apart they are. Is there anything in the game to indicate it?

Theres a circular icon bottom right of the screen that shows when it's saving, i have noticed it appearing intermittently so i suppose thats it. It may be my personal tastes but thus far there's been no points where i've found any particular section really so hard as to give up or not find retrying it fun. When the turrets and tallboys start appearing it can start getting gritty.

I'm thinking increasingly how absurd the aping of half life 2's graphical touches are at points, essentally like giant lumps of hl2's citadel are thumped into the city at points, and i swear there's a bit where they have the actual combine apc as a prop in it

Cannot wait to get back on this shortly.

Think I'll turn off mission notifications to give it more immersion.

I have them on so i dont happen upon them accidentally, i try to make the objective marker the last place i visit

Edit: Mind,not that that is relevant, something worth noting about this game is after you complete the main objective, or any objective,the level does not automatically end, you're free to roam about and do as you like until you return to whoever takes you away (Samuel the boatman thus far)

Moto70 wrote:

I hate, no, detest Bioshock, Deus Ex (the latest one) I found boring but Skyrim I fucking loved. 2 outta 3 ain't selling it to me...

With all due respect, no one here is trying to sell you on a game. We're merely posting our opinions in a thread about the game. If you don't want to play it, don't play it.

LazyGunn wrote:

i dont think it's anything like skyrim except maybe the blocking/parrying sword mechanic? and i dont think it's anything like bioshock because bioshock was all closed in and clunky and while the game has the superpowers and the openended approach to choice in an area,this game embraces freedom of movement and the most fun bits are the bits where you're outside rather than inside acting like a blink-powered spiderman best example i can think of atm is the bridge, oh the bridge, i got near the end and realised i'd completely forgotten to check for runes on the way so restarted happily, i enjoyed it just as much (found it just as exhilarating) the second time through and found a bunch of completely different stuff i didnt know was there

Gunn, when I say it feels like a game, thats all I really mean. It feels like a game.

It exudes Bioshock to me; especially in the first section. You're thrown into a world which just exists. You don't know if it's the real world, a fantasy world, the future, the past. You have none of this information. 

My point wasn't that it plays like Bioshock, because it quite clearly doesn't. But it was definitely giving me that Bioshock vibe. Now that I'm a little further in, that vibe has succumbed to Deus-Ex. It feels VERY Deus Ex (the original). Having a closed playground of a level with objectives and multiple avenues to those objectives. Just like Deus Ex.

Midway through first mission now, decided to stealth everywhere, then combat everyone. Loving the feel and tone of the combat, the movement is precise, which when coupled with Blink lets you feel like you're parkouring the hell out of everywhere.

Just a wonderful game.

I deeply deeeeply recommend you all get megablink and the agility abilities, dont get the second sight upgrade it kind of ruins things, that is all

MattyJ wrote:

Comparisons to BioShock make me very interested indeed! Too many good games about

Yeah there are.

I am very interested in this as well.  Gonna have to rent it from Lovefilm at some point though, still have Sleeping Dogs to finish.

First mission down, about 5 hours in. Checked everywhere and only missed one thing. Upgraded some powers and I feel a proper badass now. Blink > Assassination is a bloody lethal combo.

Truly wonderful game, just behind Trials Evo this year for me.

That whole mission was tension filled!

I got stop time, its beautiful.