Edit: actually, this belongs in the Bunnies thread.

I'm expecting good things from the 3DS including a hardware revision with 2nd circle pad and better battery. More software/app type stuff. New streetquest stuff. Lots of gloating about sales in Japan and interaction between gamers.

Turtle o Wurtle wrote:

Steambox announced. Gabe Newell removes one from the depths of his vast trousers and eats it, live on stage.

eeep he ate it whilst it was still alive.

haha i bet you`d still get the fucking whooping and a hollering. It worse than a party conference with a demographic of cheesy, smiling, cock munching fuktards standing about clapping rapturously...grrrrr this threads infectious.

Reiterating the ground rules in both these threads.

This is the equivalent of the usual E3 thread, which tends towards negativity and gives the proceedings a good roasting. If you don't like this, go to the other thread. During live events you can say what you like in here, be it positive or negative, you don't have to flip-flop between threads.

Please just give me no more motion control bullshit. I like to play games sat down. End of. If I want to run/jump/wave things I will do it in real life.

Aaroncupboard wrote:

Please just give me no more motion control bullshit. I like to play games sat down. End of. If I want to run/jump/wave things I will do it in real life.

good point well spoke.

Make a controller that gets me a drink and some snacks. Win win winner.

revelthedog wrote:

Aaroncupboard wrote:

Please just give me no more motion control bullshit. I like to play games sat down. End of. If I want to run/jump/wave things I will do it in real life.

good point well spoke. Make a controller that gets me a drink and some snacks. Win win winner.

but its good sat down too!
datura,
pixeljunk 4am,
tumble,
flight control hd.

all good on your comfy ass.

proboubly wrong thread/ unleash the hate!

I'm getting in another pre-emptive "Wii U is crap" post.  I don't get it; I could understand how the Wii's controller could have been revolutionary (heh), how the DS could provide some interesting experiences, and how the 3DS could work.  But the Wii U doesn't do anything new.  

The USP of having some stuff on a small screen is in direct conflict with the other USP of switching it to "handheld mode" when someone else wants to use the TV (which is daft idea anyway, given that about 3/4s of us seem to have at least 2 TVs).  

Just like the Wii, any games that want to use the USP will have to be markedly different from their Xbox/PS4 companions, not to mention they'll need their graphics scaled down a bit.  You couldn't easily shoehorn motion control in to a Call of Duty game, and likewise I don't think you can shoehorn anything interesting into the Wii U controller without the game being bespoke.

So, it'll undoubtedly have a couple of Edge 10s in a Zelda/Mario combo, and it already sounds like a few things like Pikmin 3 will be worth a play, but it's going to miss out, again, on all the "big name" games, and without the draw of your gran playing Wii Bowling, no casual buyers are going to be in on it.  You can't win the casual market over more than once every few generations, as people like your mother are likely to say they don't need to replace a Wii when there's nothing wrong with it.

I don't get it.

I'm was highly sceptical of the Wii U when it was first announced too. I certainly didn't see the point of a screen on the controller. But how about this: the Wii U will be the perfect home for just about any MMO because all the additional buttons/options could be mapped to the controller screen. The ability to play something like WoW or The Old Republic from the comfort of your couch could be a huge draw for some.

The more I think about it, the less gimmicky the Wii U sounds, and I think it could be a huge oversight on the part of Sony and Microsoft not to include some form of screen, however small, in their controllers for their next gen offerings.

Raiziel wrote:

I'm was highly sceptical of the Wii U when it was first announced too. I certainly didn't see the point of a screen on the controller. But how about this: the Wii U will be the perfect home for just about any MMO because all the additional buttons/options could be mapped to the controller screen. The ability to play something like WoW or The Old Republic from the comfort of your couch could be a huge draw for some. The more I think about it, the less gimmicky the Wii U sounds, and I think it could be a huge oversight on the part of Sony and Microsoft not to include some form of screen, however small, in their controllers for their next gen offerings.

That's a good point, it potentially offers much in the way of micromanagement currently unachievable on console.  Syndicate reboot anyone?  The good one I mean.

Wii U is different. That's a very good thing. Whether it turns out to be great or good or shit will more or less depend on the software, not the hardware, and I'm anticipating Nintendo will provide some great experiences.

Sony and MS have core offerings that are too similar, though from what I can tell Kinect offers enough genuinely different experiences that it's captured another niche - stuff like Dance Central the obvious point.

Having a slightly left field choice out there is great, and keeps the others on their toes.


If anything's going to be shit, it's SuperSteamCube.

Mod74 wrote:

It'll sell on the strength of the first party stuff. Which whilst it's doubtful it'll capture the casual mindshare again there's enough people who like Mario and Link enough to fight through all sorts of clumsy input/display flights of fancy to make it a success.

There's probably about 20 million people who'll buy one just to play Mario and the like, going off Gamecube sales. But is that enough?

Raiziel wrote:

The more I think about it, the less gimmicky the Wii U sounds, and I think it could be a huge oversight on the part of Sony and Microsoft not to include some form of screen, however small, in their controllers for their next gen offerings.

A screen has a few problems as an addition at the moment. It obviously adds cost, but it's also a field that's constantly being improved these days because of the smartphone market. The Wii-U screen already looks dated, imagine what sort of impression it will give off in a few years time. 

Actually letting the new consoles use a smart phone or tablet as a secondary controller seems a more interesting prospect, although who owns what would probably stop the idea taking off.

I've no idea what Nintendo are paying for these screens, say $20. Multiply that by the number of units they'll sell and that's the gamble that they're taking on a feature that has a real chance of not taking off.

I could see it if the screen worked the same way as an iPhone screen and they had the opportunity to tap into that market as well. The controller isn't the reason that MMORPG's haven't had any impact on consoles this generation.