Tempy wrote:

That's absolutely not what I'm saying. edit for clarity: You're very welcome to dislike it, but to assume that post-modernism is a label just given to defend it despite its form, and that logic somehow dictates it's more likely to be shit than worth debating is simply reductive.

Thing is, we've discussed MGS2 over and over again since it came out. And I'm sorry, but I'm not saying "post-modern" is being used as a label to defend it on a post-hoc basis, I'm saying it's not post-modern. It's just rubbish. Seriously, watch the making-of DVD that came with the special edition. Not even the staff knew what was going on with that game. There's an artists who says on multiple occasions "Kojima asked me to design {character}, and I thought he was joking".

So if my opinions are going to be dismissed as "a load of shit", I can't be bothered any more. I've tried discussing it and got abuse for my troubles.

For what it's worth, I've clarified that I wasn't dismissing your opinion, more the idea that you're trying to argue that there's an objective logic behind yours and batshit craziness behind others, by invoking something like Occam's Razor.

Authorial intent is not the be all and end of interpretation -you can thank Barthes for that- so if you can infer it and back it up, you can make that claim. All evidence presented to me points towards it being post-modern, regardless of the intentions of the creators behind it. If you think the creators DVD denies that, then that's fair enough, but it's ignoring decades of textual criticism.

Blue Swirl wrote:

Tempy wrote:

What a load of shit

I'm sorry, does my opinion differ to yours? OH NOES.

Well, yes, but his opinion is backed up, provided with context, opens up avenues for optional further discussion.

Yours, doesn't. Which means it's not as valuable or interesting.

I'm just trying to make you better at this.

That wasn't nice. I'm sorry.

Don't be a dick Funk.

I am at the 2nd battle with Peace Walker and it's a complete baw ache.  Reading up on it, sounds like my R&D is about 8 levels too low for the LAW missile thingy I need to defeat it.  Any one got any hints?  Also is there a way to have more than 50 R&D bods?