It is weird and a little disappointing, but if you stealth attack you can go straight into blade mode and basically do that anyway. You can even do it on the stealth attack when you jump, after you've hit him you have about 2 seconds to do go into blade mode.

TheDJR wrote:

Tempy wrote:

It'll be like Vanquish, get a 7 or an 8, and those who get on with it will adore it, and those who don't get on with it will proclaim it utterly shite, devoid of merit, a boring clone of X with a gimmick etc etc

Or Bayonetta which got a 10 and was still hated by plenty of people.

I would be surprised (and happy) if this got a 10, but I think it is closer in spirits to Vanquish, as it has one thing that it does, but it does it really, really well.

Can't you switch blade-mode camera control to the right stick?  Is that the problem?
Really enjoyed it anyway, didn't realise there was a dodge and was quite liking how that forced me into the risk/reward of parrying.  Parrying which fixes NG: Black and Bayo's problem of being spammable (although NG2 solved this, it felt a little too risky to use).
I only hope that the demo's slow-walk finger-phone bits are the only examples in the entire game.

Ftr, I adore Bayonetta but didn't get on with Vanquish.

Dubs wrote:

Can't you switch blade-mode camera control to the right stick?  Is that the problem? Really enjoyed it anyway, didn't realise there was a dodge and was quite liking how that forced me into the risk/reward of parrying.  Parrying which fixes NG: Black and Bayo's problem of being spammable (although NG2 solved this, it felt a little too risky to use). I only hope that the demo's slow-walk finger-phone bits are the only examples in the entire game. Ftr, I adore Bayonetta but didn't get on with Vanquish.

As stated before, the dodge isn't amazing, it's just a nice alternative to have. 

More things i've noticed: Parrying has two timings, one for a block/stumble which you can follow up on, and one for a true parry, which counters into an attack. I thought it was attack specific, but it's timing, neat.

Raiden has stinger, and launcher just like Dante. Towards>Towards>Wide Slash is launcher, Towards>Towards>Heavy Slash is stinger. He also has a MIGHTY PALM attack, which is away>towards>wide slash. It is ACE.

Tempy wrote:

You're meant to parry attacks by pressing towards+X (square). The dodge is X+A (square+X), and can be done backwards or sideways.

Ahh, I wasn't parrying at all, thanks, I'll give it another go tommorrow.

While I understand people not liking Bayonetta for the design (really, the only problem there is Bayo herself as enemy design was amazing. And most of her alternate costumes are much better imo) I can't understand why people would dislike Vanquish. For me it was like a defib jolting the just flat-lined corpse of the cover shooter back to life.

I'm about to play the demo. Gawd fuck this is exciting.

Tempy wrote:

Ah right, I misread your intention there. I agree. I fully expect that, come launch, the thread will be full of people enjoying it, and people who haven't playing it saying "ooh a 7 eh, well shame on that"

Oooh, chill Winston.

Bayonetta is one of my fave games this gen, carried almost entirely by the story and art. Vanquish takes one idea and asks you to repeat it for 7 hours in a story and environment that's as dull as ditchwater.

Excuse me for hanging on for the opinions of a variety of reviewers to see which one this ends up being closer to rather than impressions of a demo from people that have been convinced it'll be awesome from the minute it was announced.

A divinely inspired bear?

Cor even the regular attacks have unique cutting mechanics. I thought it was just blade mode.

Is the cat on the beach the first boss? I can't seem to hit it.

Mod74 wrote:

Tempy wrote:

Ah right, I misread your intention there. I agree. I fully expect that, come launch, the thread will be full of people enjoying it, and people who haven't playing it saying "ooh a 7 eh, well shame on that"

Oooh, chill Winston.

Excuse me for hanging on for the opinions of a variety of reviewers to see which one this ends up being closer to rather than impressions of a demo from people that have been convinced it'll be awesome from the minute it was announced.

It wasn't aimed at you, just at the folk who pop into a thread and go 'oh it got a 6? Must be shite.' for things like Resi 6, despite having not played it.

Yes I've been on board with this since it was handed to Platinum, they're a studio I trust after all, but the idea that anyone who has played the demo and enjoyed it is 'putting a brave face on it' is a bit ridiculous, and suggests you don't think we're capable of forming our own opinions.

I like third person action games with interesting combat systems, and like to think I know a little about them. I played the DmC demo enough to know the core was top notch, I've played the Revengeance demo more, finding out more tricks and quirks in the system than there have been in 3 whole God of War games.

The issues that others have had are valid, but they're also totally surmountable in about 5 minutes, like getting used to any vaguely new control system.

I guess the only thing to do would be to try the demo and see for yourself. The ability to restart checkpoints from the start menu gives you ample opportunities to play around with the mechanics.

Edit: man I need to learn how to be succinct

It is that one. If you slice the stairs can you not just use ninja run to get up the top?

NO BAD MOUTHING DmC IN HERE

Fave trick at the minute is doing the prompt-kill on the Gekkos, using one aimed slice to get the gooey bit exposed, then hammer X and wiggling the camera around to chop the living shit out of them. 70+ parts indeed.

Did you try and kill the cat at the start?

FINAL BOSS

I'll have a proper go and get boss at it when my eyes aren't stinging from man flu.

haha, i have seen. I really hope it's not the final boss

GAME UNFINISHED