GooberTheHat wrote:

hylian_elf wrote:

Sheeeeet. 

Also, evidence that our government has re the hospital bombing being due to rocket fired from Gaza? Er, no. They haven’t. 

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1716500890591400428?s=46&t=xJqsAiAKde1Nu-EamiZ1Sw

So what he is saying is that intelligence analyst think there is a 25-35% chance it was Israel, and a 55-75% chance it was Hamas/other.

So no certainty, and no first hand intelligence, just analysis based on open source information.

Israel says it has refused visa to UN official to 'teach them a lesson'

Israel says it has refused a visa to UN humanitarian affairs chief Martin Griffiths as a result of comments at the UN by secretary-general António Guterres.

Israeli media reports that Israel’s ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan said on army radio:

Due to his remarks we will refuse to issue visas to UN representatives. We have already refused a visa for under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs Martin Griffiths. The time has come to teach them a lesson.

Three days before the blast, a 155mm illumination shell, commonly used by the Israeli military and not in use by Palestinian militias, was fired into the Al-Ahli Hospital. Hospital administrators said that they had received warnings from the IDF telling them to evacuate.

Our analysis does not answer what actually did cause the blast or who was responsible, but it does undercut one of the most-publicized pieces of evidence used by both American and Israeli officials.

hylian_elf wrote:

Israeli ambassador to UN calling him to resign as expected.

Holocaust memorial centre criticises UN chief

Yad Vashem, the Jerusalem-based Holocaust memorial centre, has criticised UN Secretary General António Guterres for saying on Tuesday that the the Hamas attacks on Israel earlier this month "did not happen in a vacuum".

In a statement issued today, the centre's chairman Dani Dayan says:

    "The slaughter of Jews by Hamas on October 7th was genocidal in its intents and immeasurably brutal in its form. Part of why it differs from the Holocaust is because Jews have today a state and an army. We are not defenseless and at the mercy of others."

But he adds that what happened tests "the sincerity" of world leaders, intellectuals and influencers that visit the Yad Vashem memorial and pledge "Never Again" - a phrase associated with preventing the horrors of the Holocaust from ever being repeated.

    "Those who seek to 'understand', look for a justifying context, do not categorically condemn the perpetrators, and do not call for the unconditional and immediate release of the abducted – fail the test. UN Secretary General António Guterres failed the test."
    Dani DayanChairman, Yad Vashem

Guterres has not directly responded but earlier on Wednesday, he highlighted other parts of his Tuesday speech, posting on X: "The grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the horrific attacks by Hamas. Those horrendous attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people."

The Graun wrote:

Joe Biden on Wednesday spoke out against retaliatory attacks by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in the West Bank in the aftermath of the 7 October Hamas attacks on Israel, the Associated Press reports.
The US president also said he was redoubling his commitment to working on a two-state solution to end the decades-long Israel-Palestinian conflict.
Biden said that the attacks by “extremist settlers” amounted to “pouring gasoline” on the already burning fires in the Middle East since the Hamas attack.

It has to stop. They have to be held accountable. It has to stop now,” Biden said at the start of a news conference with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who was being honored with a state visit to Washington, DC.

Settler violence against Palestinians has intensified since the Hamas attack, and Palestinians have been killed by settlers, according to Palestinian authorities. Rights groups say settlers have torched cars and attacked several small Bedouin communities, forcing them to evacuate to other areas.
Biden again condemned the brutality of the Hamas attack that killed 1,400 Israelis and said that he was convinced that Hamas was driven in part by a desire undo U.S.-led efforts to normalize Israeli relations with some of its Arab neighbors, including Saudi Arabia.
Biden also said that after the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, Israeli, Palestinians and their partners must work toward a two-state solution.

Israelis and Palestinians equally deserve to live side by side in safety, dignity and peace. When this crisis is over, there has to be a vision of what comes next. And in our view, it has to be a two-state solution,” Biden said.