Outriders - Square-Enix/People Can Fly Co-op Shooter - The Bear and Badger

Tempy

chrysal on my dick, fuckin' dumb bastard boss

LivDiv

I've played enough of this now to form an opinion I think.
Its an OK SP/Co-op shooter that for unknown reasons has looter shooter and always online guff layered on top that really only serves to detract.

The text has a glow on it that makes it hard to read even with large text turned on.

[7] low end.

Tempy

Looter shooter stuff I am fine with, I like the numbers and perks. Some baffling design decisions though, and the always online stuff makes not a lick of sense.

regmcfly

Once me and tempy took down Chris I offhandedly mentioned that we will probably clear story by the end of the week and it is a solid 6.

I think that's going to be prophetic.

stonechalice

Tried this again. What a pile of dog shit.

b0r1s

You can't argue with that.

Tempy

Sure I can.

Verecocha

I really like it...think I’m entering the last area. Some of the firefights are awesomely intense.

MattyJ

Yeah for sure. Playing coop increases the amount and toughness of the enemies and it gets pretty full on!

Got my trickster in a good place now as well, feeling strong!

stonechalice

The unfathomable mediocrity of every facet of this games design is what keeps me from putting any more time into it. I mean, the run and gun gameplay is fine, if very bog standard, the abilities are wild, but also a bit shit. Everything else is just so bland and brown, the narrative and voice acting so infantile, the level design is some of the worst I've ever seen, invisible walls everywhere. Even the snap to cover function is unreliable. It's a real eye roller this game. I just can't bear anymore of it.

It's honestly as if they all sat round a table and decided to make the most generic ass shooter they could think of and then doubled down on it.

Total dog paff.

stonechalice

The unfathomable mediocrity of every facet of this games design is what keeps from putting any more time into it. I mean, the run and gun gameplay is fine, if very bog standard, the abilities are wild, but also a bit shit. Everything else is just so bland and brown, the narrative and voice acting so infantile, the level design is some of the worst I've ever seen, invisible walls everywhere. Even the snap to cover function is unreliable. It's a real eye roller this game. I just can't bear anymore of it.

It's honestly as if they all say round a table and decided to make the most generic ass shooter they could think of and then doubled down on it.

Total dog paff.

Speedhaak

I can understand how you would feel like that and don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying. However, this is very much deliberately build around the Diablo formula of being solely focused on loot and builds. There definitely are issues with it, and it's not the kind of game that's going to set your world on fire. Having said that, it's going to be a slow few years now with Corona on the rampage so I guess I'll take what I can get in this vein.

Now, if they could marry the loot and skill design a long with the way mods work with the world building and art of Destiny. I'd be all in for that!

LivDiv

I assume the loot gets a bit more interesting further in than I played because it just seemed like an annoyance to me.

Particularly the decision to have to right thumb click to highlight what you wanted to recycle.

Tempy

LivDiv wrote:

I assume the loot gets a bit more interesting further in than I played because it just seemed like an annoyance to me. Particularly the decision to have to right thumb click to highlight what you wanted to recycle.

This bothered me too, until I realised that there are colour tabs in the lower right hand corner that select everything of a certain colour that is unequipped.

LivDiv

Ffs

MattyJ

The run and gun game play is definitely not standard. It becomes quite a complex mixture or managing cool downs, positioning, timing for skill synergy and monitoring your health/armour. The choice of mods, weapons, skills and skill tree makes a massive difference to how your character plays.

Tempy

My main issue, the more I play as my rock wielding psychopath, is that the abilities are simultaneously cool but don't do enough damage (against bosses) and the shooting/camera closeness just doesn't feel fine tuned to deal with the abilities. I guess I could mess around with sensitivity, though I rarely bother in other games so it puts me off here, but I hate doing a fucking awesome gravity leap into a mob, turning 70% of them into mush, and then trying to heave my aim towards the goons who have survived.

I like that killing, for my character, regains health, which incentivises getting right into the thick of it, but I dislike that every boss just feels like a tedious bulletsponge who gets tickled by all of my previously amazing abilities and has me running around on a third of my health.

Yet still, I play because my brain is made of pee and poo.

regmcfly

Theres a lot of genero-trudge about this, but I like the special abilities, and the plot is bad enough that I am quite enjoying it.

It's a perfectly cromulent game.

Tempy

Proper 7 out of 10, B game disaster.

Tempy

2000s B-Game 7 out of 10 Disaster

They were popular in the 2006 right

regmcfly

It's shantastic

LivDiv

Too much wank in this for it to he a top tier B game.

Binary Domain laughs from its perch.

Tempy

oh it’s not top tier

regmcfly

Another burst with old Templeton today and I'm fairly sure we are gonna see it to credits given how far we are now. I'm still finding the combat fun, although at level 21 the unlocks are slowing down. The bosses continue to absolutely suck bullets and ass though.

Djornson

On my 3rd attempt, i'm enjoying this. Took me ages to 'get' the combat. Have played with some super helpful randoms. Level 7 technomancer i think i am, world tier 5.

MattyJ

Level 7 or so is when I think you've got a few powers and things start clicking with the combat.

There's been a decent patch to this now as well, fixes a bunch of bugs and has some improvements

regmcfly

Are you still enjoying it

Wookienopants

I like this. It's great fun

MattyJ

regmcfly wrote:

Are you still enjoying it

Really enjoying my time on the game, Reg

Officer_V

Finished this the other day and enjoyed it right up until the end. Ended up dropping the world tier for the last boss as it was a bit of a farce and had two sections, but if you died at the second you had to reply the entire encounter. Aside from that I really enjoyed Outriders and wish I'd got some Co-op action out of it.

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