That's all part of the same problem, the zombie animations that kick in when your player has any kind of physical contact. It would be hilarious to watch a guy totally ignore the ball at his feet if you weren't actually interested in winning games.

Also fuck listening to Guantanamera again.

Dont forget passes not going where you direct them, and ridiculous ball physics/collisions never going your way.

The one that makes my players run away from the ball

I appreciate your attempts at help, it's true that its not for me it would seem.

As for Fifa ... I'm one of those people who doesn't buy EA games. I'll be sticking with the playmaker edition of PES 11/12 I think for now.

I dont know why exactly, it just feels like so many things go wrong in any given play. Passes go astray, my tackles are less effective than theirs, even in like for like situations, and whether that's my fault or the game's fault is academic at this stage since I dont have the patience to persevere with its quirks.

The random nature of PES has always been the strength of the gameplay - it seems far less rigid than Fifa. Unfortunately my feeling is that this year there is a bit more in the way of niggles that have made their way in.

And yeah, diving headers from corners are nice. Managed that twice on the demo.

Plan_XIII wrote:

It's not perfect by any means but I'm having a lot of fun with it.  I even jumped in the air with a 'fist pump' celebration because I scored my first header from a corner last night.  That's what I love about PES and have missed - scoring a goal feels great, like it should in real life. I'm not holding much hope for FIFA this year.  I've been reading stuff about it at another forum I frequent and the majority don't seem happy with it at all (and most of them are raging FIFA fan bois usually). Really looking forward to the next gen now though to see how both EA and Konami games fare.

Agree with that! The feeling of scoring a goal is what's getting me through this dry period before they release the first data pack and I can play master league. I'd love to get an option file if they didn't create their own players...

Downloaded PES2014 demo earlier.

Feels really good to me. Some of the animations are great and the physics have improved a lot since I last bothered with the series - Some wonderfully crunching challenges when you time them right! As mentioned earlier, scoring a goal in PES always feels like more of an achievement than in Fifa and I found myself fist pumping a few times earlier.

There are issues, of course. Largely ones that have always been present in PES, but it just feels so much more exciting than FIFA (Note: I haven't tried 2014).

Unfortunately for me, I have no friends, and football games really are about the local multiplayer for me, so I probably won't purchase.

Yeah, PES demo is infinitely better. Pity it's nowhere near as polished.

Spent a good couple days with this now and the Pro Evo bug has bitten me again. Downloaded Daymo's latest option file (still waiting for Championship, Bundesliga, etc. to be fully updated) and as there's no Leeds for now, went straight into the Master League with Newcastle. Professional difficulty, OG ML team but not as I remember them, only Mirandina seems familiar, have lost a few, drawn a few more and won many to keep me second or third.

Fabulous engine they've got going, not without its niggles but then it wouldn't be Pro Evo without them. Crafting a goal has me giving a little fist pump like it's PES5 again, can get a little wayward with the physics and the AI, but it's got all the character I remember from all those years ago. It obviously misses a lot of the polish FIFA can afford, but that was always part of the charm.

What with this, a resurgent Battlefield and more to come with GTA, plenty to tide me over till the next gen hullabaloo has died down.

That would be very decent of you, Plan. I think if you upload it to the B&B Dropbox, that would work. Let me know if you need the login details and I'll PM.

The pacing in this is superb, you are allowed time on the ball to play as you are less pressured in your own half, which obviously increases the further up the pitch. The physicality also allows you to dribble with the ball and not immediately lose possession. It is a pleasure to be able to run and score on occasion, or pull off a well measured through ball and wrestle away from the AI. On occasion I've found the game let's the AI showboat a little with feints, leaving your players powerless to tackle, but it's a minor quibble. Very little to fault with this.

I got Newcastle promoted in my first season, almost in first but it was neck and neck on the final game which I lost. Professional difficulty feels about right, a fair amount of W/L/D and no outrageous scorelines, and the Premier League is definitely another step up. Offered a few international jobs from minor countries, took up the USA post so it should spice up my second ML season.

Webbins wrote:

I got Newcastle promoted in my first season, almost in first but it was neck and neck on the final game which I lost. Professional difficulty feels about right, a fair amount of W/L/D and no outrageous scorelines, and the Premier League is definitely another step up. Offered a few international jobs from minor countries, took up the USA post so it should spice up my second ML season.

I'm gonna start my ML later, gonna play as Spurs.  Lack of stadia in this edition is a minor annoyance but the game is so amazing ON the field I couldn't really care.

Got my custom soundtrack on the go as well so I don't have to put up with Konami's dodgy tunes.

I'll grab the USB stick now and see what I can do with the file for you.

Webbins wrote:

Olimite wrote:

Oi, no PES nonsense spoiling my Dropbox account!

I'll delete it Oli, promise... or are you just worried it will taint the place?

It's fine, honestly.

New patch is now up on XBL and PSN.  It has fixed the keepers reactions when you shoot from close range and near post, also loads of other fixes too.  Game is even better now!

Plus there's FINALLY the new Data Pack to download.  The thing is HUGE and takes a good while to bring down.  It's got 1000s of new faces (no more dodgy Rafael!) plus up-to-date transfers and 2v2/11v11 mode is now GO.

They took their time about it but it's here at last.  Make sure you haven't got any option files loaded when you install of the above - basically, make sure your game is vanilla and then download them.  Daymos new Option File is nearly here which will be compatible with the above and will include fully licensed kits, leagues, balls, crowd chants for every team (!) and HD emblems.