Dinostar77 wrote:

Walked in, saw a couple of pages of carnage. Decided its too nice a day to waste. Walked out.

Dinostar77 wrote:

The more you are exposed to the ideas and concepts the more you can drill down into it, too many people just dismiss it without doing any reading.

Dinostar77 wrote:

Walked in, saw a couple of pages of carnage. Decided its too nice a day to waste. Walked out.

Yossarian wrote:

bad_hair_day wrote:

Yossarian wrote:

How is it that you’ve spent ages in this thread pointing out how credible military witnesses are when they tell you what you want to hear, yet now we have two military witnesses on one hand versus one on the other and you’re just dismissing the reports that don’t align with your beliefs?

Bias? Would it help if posted correspondence from (name dropping again) Colonel Don Crawford to balance it out? I doubt it.

It’s incredible you don’t think if UFO’s were disarming nukes the Brass wouldn’t try and cover that up. If I bothered looking I’m fairly confident the Soviets had the same happen to them.

I fully believe that the army is capable of covering up things that happened, but seeing as this entire incident is based on the testimony of one man, testimony that is directly contradicted by other eyewitnesses, I believe it is far, far more likely that Salas and Hastings are full of shit, and this was genuinely just some random technical fault.

Armitage_Shankburn wrote:

equinox_code wrote:

Random story about how I became a skeptic. When i was about 16/17 i got my first mobile phone, a huge brick-flip thing with a camera. I think the brand was NEC, and it was one of the first phones to have built in video recording features. One peculiar ‘feature’ of this phone was how it responded to photographing/videoing the sun. The rest of the sky would look completely normal, but the sun would appear as a black circle/object. Moreover, if you tilted the camera back and forth, there were angles where the sun would appear to have a black strike through it too, making it look like the cliche depiction of a flying saucer. There was no gradient in how the colours transitioned from the black sun to the blue sky either; it was clear and distinct. None of my friends' phones- different models- created this effect, and we were all really impressed with just how much this looked like an actual ufo.

Anyway, one afternoon my friends and i spent a few hours trying to create a video hoax to convince people that we had captured an alien craft on film. It didn’t take many attempts to realise that a shaky hand was beneficial to making the video look more believable/less like a lens trick, plus this was also quite good at creating the illusion of a moving craft as we could slowly shuffle to the side to make it look as if the spaceship/sun had passed behind my parents house. We even rehearsed some lines to read out as part of a script so that we would all sound suitably amazed at what we were witnessing.

In the end we had created something that was really convincing. So much so that our new intention was to send it in to the local paper to see if they were interested in covering the story. Unfortunately none of us could figure out how to get footage off my phone, so the idea was abandoned. Instead we used it to impress friends and strangers in the pub, and for this purpose it worked really well.

Some weeks later we all had a good laugh when we saw that someone else evidently had the same idea as us, but had managed to actually get their footage off the phone and send it to the papers. The Herald Express, a local newspaper in Devon, put it on the front page. ‘UFO spotted over Torquay’ or something like that. The image was undoubtedly captured in the same way ours was. Really, we were 100% sure. There was an interview with some chap and his friends who had concocted a story about seeing the craft one morning.

What was really funny about this was the other emerging accounts reported to the paper in the days that followed. Apparently other people had seen it too, most of whom unfortunately didn’t have a camera. Suddenly this forgery was gaining ‘credibility’, which led to other local newspapers calling out for any other who may have witnessed this mysterious craft. Some weeks later there was another sighting too, only this time the Western Morning News had the scoop. Again, it was absolutely forged in the same way ours was- there were too many similarities- and once again the news story was met by other readers writing in to say they thought they saw it too.

This should be quoted to be the top comment on every page. It's astounding how gullible people are.