Bye Bye Edge There are probably threads already.... - The Bear and Badger

retroking1981

NMS was great, Total! was another fun Nintendo read.

Mean Machines and the High-Five CVG era were two of my fav multipformat mags.

Two lesser known/quality ones I liked were Arcade and Ultimate Future Games.

Yossarian

davyK wrote:

But if they can recreate the glow an Edge 10 used to have.

I don't think they can. Edge 10s used to make me sit up and pay attention. They've given out so many now that it barely registers any more. That won't change if they start making them more difficult to obtain now.

Skerret

That cover looks like Tim Langdell designed it.

Who remembers Plok!?

stonechalice

Bloody hell I remember that!

[Deleted User]

davyK wrote:

But if they can recreate the glow an Edge 10 used to have.

Oh the glory days, when 3D was young and so was I. I think half the reason I bought the Wii U was to relive my youth. Alas, time marches on but I do believe I can make out VR on the horizon

Lord_Griff

The future is clearly: http://ginx.tv/

Bollockoff

What games of last gen didn't deserve their 10 then? GTA IV?

Matt_82

That NMS cover is pure nostalgia.

MattyJ

GTA IV, Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rock Band 3, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and GTAV I would argue didn't deserve 10s.

LarryDavid

I remember buying that issue of Nintendo Magazine System, desperate for Super Mario Kart news and screenshots.

Just look at Mel's mullet there. Glorious.

stonechalice

LarryDavid wrote:

I remember buying that issue of Nintendo Magazine System, desperate for Super Mario Kart news and screenshots. Just look at Mel's mullet there. Glorious.

Zelda IV on the SNES too??? I had that issue.

djchump

stonechalice wrote:

Bloody hell I remember that!

Pickford Bros. still going reasonably strong indie - Magnetic Billiards on iOS.

http://www.zee-3.com/pickfordbros/

Yossarian

Bollockoff wrote:

What games of last gen didn't deserve their 10 then? GTA IV?

Essentially, between '96 and '06, Edge gave out five 10s. Between 2007 and now, they've dished out another eleven 10s. Without wishing to get into arguments about specific games, if Edge wanted to keep the 10 meaningful, at least half of the last-gen games that were awarded 10s should have got a 9.

nick_md

Mans giving too much weight to these scores. Go on the text, and your own gut feeling based on years of games playing / word of mouth, rather than a number assigned by some chin-stroker in Bath.

Yossarian

I do. However, once upon a time, seeing that Edge had awarded a game a 10 would have convinced me to check the game out whatever my gut feeling or the word of mouth was. It was another way that I may have been recommended a game. Now they're given out so often that it has become meaningless so they do get ignored.

nick_md

Yeah I do get that, honestly.

What's the difference if those 10s were made 9s though? That'd only be 'cause they're not brand new games/titles/franchises, right? If they were the first of their respective frannies, they'd get a 10? So does it really matter? They're like 9.5s or whatever.

I do think those listed a few posts up are 9s, fwiw, but I'm not really fussed enough to argue over a point. The Edge 10 has changed in meaning. Was nice when they were rare but the difference to me between a 9 and 10 isn't that much.

Yossarian

It was something they had which set them apart from the competition, a tougher scoring system which made those high scores seem a bit more important. Losing that meant that they lost what was, IMO, a defining characteristic of the mag.

nick_md

True, fo sho.

I'd say the more important defining characteristic was the writing though. I haven't bought and rarely read an issue since '08 though.

nick_md

though though

Diluted Dante

MattyJ wrote:

GTA IV, Zelda: Skyward Sword, Rock Band 3, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and GTAV I would argue didn't deserve 10s.

Rock Band 3 is absolutely a [10].

mistercrayon

I had that nms. In retrospect Mario kart deserves more cover than lethal weapon game. For shame editor.

Edit: zelda iv for snes!!

retroking1981

mistercrayon wrote:

I had that nms. In retrospect Mario kart deserves more cover than lethal weapon game. For shame editor.

Edit: zelda iv for snes!!

Lethal Weapon 3 was just coming out/was out/had just been out. Maybe they thought about that instead.

I can't remember how much hype surrounded MK back then. I remember it getting 7X% in Total! which was a massively biased Nintendo mag that called the MD the Mug-o-Drive, basically the sort of mag you'd expect to overrate it just because of being a Nintendo game ala Eternal Champions in one of the Sega mags moots always banging on about.

I also remember Sonic 2 getting 69% in Gamesmaster, no one gave a shit. I think kids back then were more grown up and didn't care as much about scores as the adults of today. The reality is its probably more likely we were so biased we didn't take notice of bad scores for games on our respective systems.

beano

I_R wrote:

The current website seems like a wasteland though, nothing gets comments in double figures. I'm not sure investing in it would change that, they've never been great for news and discussion has moved to social networks.

Edge only use(d?) facebook, twitter and g+ as horns, rarely did they engage with anyone, ignoring it as a soundboard, which seemed more insane after they killed the forum- I presume it must be policy- rarely engaging, and part of maintaining their standard, which they haven't met IMHO for years. Whatever policy it is that has tried to maintain the personality and authority of Edge has failed.

Also, you'd think if industry types need Edge in their offices then industry types need their website too for ensuring they can readily advertise jobs, y'know.

optimark_prime

retroking1981 wrote:

mistercrayon wrote:

I had that nms. In retrospect Mario kart deserves more cover than lethal weapon game. For shame editor.

Edit: zelda iv for snes!!

Lethal Weapon 3 was just coming out/was out/had just been out. Maybe they thought about that instead.

I can't remember how much hype surrounded MK back then. I remember it getting 7X% in Total! which was a massively biased Nintendo mag that called the MD the Mug-o-Drive, basically the sort of mag you'd expect to overrate it just because of being a Nintendo game ala Eternal Champions in one of the Sega mags moots always banging on about.

I also remember Sonic 2 getting 69% in Gamesmaster, no one gave a shit. I think kids back then were more grown up and didn't care as much about scores as the adults of today. The reality is its probably more likely we were so biased we didn't take notice of bad scores for games on our respective systems.

I wouldn't buy Gamesmaster because of that. An obvious attempt to gain notoriety.

I'm shocked it's still going, tbh.

Yossarian

retroking1981 wrote:

mistercrayon wrote:

I had that nms. In retrospect Mario kart deserves more cover than lethal weapon game. For shame editor.

Edit: zelda iv for snes!!

Lethal Weapon 3 was just coming out/was out/had just been out. Maybe they thought about that instead.

Or maybe MK had had the cover the previous month.

EvilRedEye

Looking at the list of 10s it seems like the whole concept of 10s as an indication of revolutionaryness hit the point of diminishing returns pretty rapidly after the first three or four (and yes, I do know they explicitly dropped that eventually).

IanHamlett

Since the score was basically 1-4 = totally dire then from 5 to 9 scaling from meh to great and 10 being amaze. Fuck it all. Just have "edge recommended" in place of 10s and fuck the rest.

retroking1981

I quite like Gamesmasters sub system of Buy-Try-Avoid.

Granted 90% of games would simply be lumped in the Try category but I like its simpleness.

Like Ian just stated 1-4 no matter what the review source are regarded as the same - Avoid. Have 5 (what should be 'average') to 9 as Try and 10 as Buy.

We should start a podcast - Traffic Light Gaming!

[Deleted User]

For my money if Edge wants to be an insider magazine it needs to do more than just interview Lead Developers.
Where are the interviewers with the other thousands of people who work on games.
I am far more interested in hearing from animators, concept artists , physics programmers etc than I am reading a lead read the waffle he is been handed from the publisher's PR team.

What I definitely don't want to read is Edge going on jollys around Europe listing what studios are in what city.

hylian_elf

nick_md wrote:

Super Play, now that was a mag.

I recently paid dollar to get some issues I had missed. I spent hours looking through them and reminiscing.

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