GOTG -PS360 gen- RESULTS AND AWARDS!!! (Mario Galaxy wins) - The Bear and Badger

Diluted Dante

beano wrote:

Some snobbery going down.

It's not snobbery, its experience. The games I've played on a phone have been basically all shit. Or at best yeah, it's alright, but would be better with a pad.

As for TWD, personally, I can't see how it would have been any more affecting on a tiny screen right next to me than it was on the big screen on the wall. Which I didn't share with anyone.

Maybe there are some amazing games out there that can only be played on a phone, and wouldn't be better on a Vita. But I haven't played any of them.

beano

Refer to 'Or' statement. Also it wasn't directed ly solely at your complaint; re: mobile, other platforms, some other stuff.

Yossarian

Diluted Dante wrote:

As for TWD, personally, I can't see how it would have been any more affecting on a tiny screen right next to me than it was on the big screen on the wall.

It became a world I was directly affecting through touch rather than via the medium of a joypad. Plus, it allowed the game to travel with me. As I say, playing it in bed made the whole thing somehow closer to me.

Tablets are simply more intimate devices than TVs, or even PCs.

RedDave2

Get a Hybrid -

best of both worlds!

FTL in bed with the lights out is quite fun.

hylian_elf

RedDave2 wrote:

7. X-com: Enemy Within (ps3) Havent played the update but that doesnt stop the original being absolute great fun - building up a squad hasnt been this much fun since Football manager. Non-bloody, sweary design also worth a mention, this is a game that enjoys its b-movie flavour.

Did you mean Enemy Unknown? Enemy Within is the update, which you say you haven't played. I may be mistaken though.

RedDave2

No, you are right. I do love the new additions in Enemy Within though and hopefully I can pick it up cheap in the new year. I did (of course) mean Enemy Unknown. Cracker of a game.

[Deleted User]

Ah fuck i forgot ALL THE ROCKBANDs.

[Deleted User]

@dante: mobile games.......Isnt the vita a mobile device.
Im thinking a few could be contendors though not top 10 of the gen.

Superstardust delta
Gravity rush
Lumines
Lone survivor
HOTLINE FUCKING MIAMI
Wipeout (hd tracks not 2040 somethings)
Virtua tennis
EVERYBODYS FUCKING GOLF

And 1 that must enter my top whatever just for amount of time played...........
treasures of montezuma blitz.

Edit: Not even mentioned tearaway, lbp and guacamale.

Moot_Geeza

Placeholder list, will sort the order out/trim it soon:

Trials
Trials Evolution
Super Meat Boy
Portal
Portal 2
Mario Galaxy
Mario Galaxy 2
Uncharted 2
World of Goo
Bayonetta
Red Dead Redemption
Batman Arkham Asylum
Mass Effect 2
Scene It: Lights, Camera, Action (whether it counts as a game or not I've had hours of quiz fun with both 360 versions)
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Sin & Punishment 2
'Splosion Man
Pixeljunk Shooter
Gears of War
Forza 2
Skyward Sword
Beat the Beat: Rhythm Paradise

Diluted Dante

The vita has buttons, so no.

monkey

I can't quite keep track of what on Earth people are talking about in terms of allowed consoles / devices. The best way to define this generation though is by release date, not as some people seem to be doing, of when it's successor gets released in relation to a home console's lifespan and how many buttons it has, or because some one doesn't like puzzle games, or whatever the hell the argument is.

This gen is represented by PS3, 360, PSP, DS. iOS and Android should also be eligible. The represents the most popular gaming devices released roughly all within a 2-3 year period.

There are other ways of drawing the lines around this but they're all inferior.

acemuzzy

But what about the Wiiiiiiiiiii(U)?

Yossarian

Thinking about quality touch screen controls again if not necessarily GotG as great as it is: Cut the Rope. That wouldn't work with any other control method.

WorKid

And the Where's My..... series.

Yossarian

I've downloaded Where's My Water, I'm yet to play it.

acemuzzy

Angry Birds is another "better with touch" one.
And Flight Control (multitouch ftw)
And Trainyard

... possible GotG fodder there actually ...!

Yossarian

Come to think of it, The Room could be played with a mouse, but I doubt it would work as well.

Yossarian

The fact is, it's a new input method. If you try to shoehorn games designed around a different input method onto a touchscreen device, it won't work as well, but if you create games with that input method in mind, it can work brilliantly. It's the same for all input methods that ever have and ever will be devised.

Paul the sparky

Unless any of you are going to pick these games in your ten then this is all moot. No one is arguing that the control scheme isn't good for some games, it's that those games aren't good enough to break into the top ten games of this generation.

Five consoles worth of games over eight or so years and you're talking about Angry cunting Birds? Where's my ball, my Ma's shouting that my tea is ready.

Yossarian

As I say, Plants Vs Zombies is a serious consideration, based on the touch screen version. I've yet to play Device 6, but that could well be a contender.

WorKid

All I'm saying is there's no need to rule games out based on format. I doubt I'd have a 'mobile' game in my top 10, but the debate is good and I might hear of some good games I otherwise would have missed.

Paul the sparky

Fuck you and your debate.

Where's My Water is good though, I'll give you that.

Billy

Virtua tennis was Dreamcast originally no?

JonB

Some other possibilities I've come up with:

Mass Effect 2
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
Braid
Peggle
Mark of the Ninja
Bastion
Little King's Story
Dead Space: Extraction
Sin & Punishment 2
No More Heroes
Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

I'm sure there's more I haven't remembered yet. Trying to recall what else I had on DS that was really good. I played Disgaea a lot but that doesn't count, and Fire Emblem on that was a remake.

Billy

Vanquish should be on the list!

JonB

Looking at my 360 activity list, there's a lot of stuff that's good, and quite a few I gave up on, but only a few really stand out titles. It's been a great machine for the number of well made, solidly playable games, but not so much for real classics, IMO.

Moot_Geeza

JonB wrote:

Mark of the Ninja

I wouldn't be surprised if this makes it in eventually for me, but I've still not played past the demo levels. Loved it though.

Paul the sparky

It's one of the three games I've bothered to get all achievements on, so it must be doing something right. Even if it is just having achievements actually worth getting.

monkey

acemuzzy wrote:

But what about the Wiiiiiiiiiii(U)?

Ah yes, and the Wii of course.

As said above by folks, it is all a bit moot. Cut the Rope and beat sneak bandit are probably as perfect as you can get but with the best will in the world I'm still going to be able to come up with 10 games I like more on the home consoles.

dynamiteReady

1: Wii Sports.
2: CoD Modern Warfare
3: Street Fighter 4

Also rans... GoW, Portal, Fez, The Room (can I count that?), Halo 4, Left 4 Dead, Rockstar/Guitar Hero.

Guitar Hero could actually edge out Street Fighter 4, given that the game was blatantly a sign of the times, but SF4 represents a glimmer of hope for me...

A hardcore game, that found mass appeal at a time when everyone was selling the fuck out...

Capcom just said - 'Fuck it, Lets just make a new Street Fighter game... WTF do you mean it won't sell!!?' - Produced it, and created a blueprint that will last for many generations to come...

CoD's just there, because... Well... CoD.

I don't think any of us can really nail down why CoD became a multi-million pound franchise, because most of us (on here at least) find it banal...

But it is what it is.

As for Wii Sports... That wins GOTG by a country mile for me.

Was round my aunts' on boxing day...

20 of us in a room. The poor woman had been through a lot this year... So I was quite surprised to hear her talk about how much she had got into Wii Sports bowling when she had the strength and the time to do so... Talking about how she regularly beat the grandkids on the game, while the said grandkids, and my nephew, played a 4 player session with my niece, my mother, and my cousin cheering them on... My aunty dropping gameplay hints...

How Nintendo managed to fuck up with the Wii-U, I can't say. But I think back to my childhood, going through Super Mario 3 level by level on my jack-jones, and that epic family Wii-Sports session, only to realise just how far the medium has come...

True, the Wii-mote was under utilized, but it wasn't a gimmick.

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