HawBawJaws wrote:From memory, the snp never mentioned a border, it was Westminster. Think millibland tried to show he would be a strong leader by saying he'd put troops in the North of England or something similar. Sure I remember some prominent political type saying they'd rebuild hadrians wall, quickly dropped it when someone pointed it that'd bring the border further south.
That doesn't have the same baggage as in Ireland, there's no suggestion of snipers or roadside bombs. There are far less crossings and property splits as well because it's a historical border, not a 20th century line on the map.monkey wrote:I don’t see how the border can work post-Brexit. You’ll be in the same position as NI. Custom checks.
cockbeard wrote:If I'm honest I always thought that the Irish border question was put there by the EU as a reason to not leave. After all you can drive straight though Andorra without any checks, so why should Belfast be any different? Looked like scaremongering to me
HawBawJaws wrote:From memory, the snp never mentioned a border, it was Westminster. Think millibland tried to show he would be a strong leader by saying he'd put troops in the North of England or something similar.
Sure I remember some prominent political type saying they'd rebuild hadrians wall, quickly dropped it when someone pointed it that'd bring the border further south.
kneecap wrote:cockbeard wrote:If I'm honest I always thought that the Irish border question was put there by the EU as a reason to not leave. After all you can drive straight though Andorra without any checks, so why should Belfast be any different? Looked like scaremongering to me
You're completely wrong on this one. Sorry man but it was always a real and obvious issue.
Everyone here understood that before the referendum.
cockbeard wrote:Borders, thats the shitty reason s dickheads down here voted to leave the EU, seriosuly, don;t gain independence then sling it away on arguments like thatHawBawJaws wrote:Being able to control our own borders - we actually need more immigration in Scotland, not less, like the rUK seems to think, There's more of course, but I'm fucked today and riding a massive slump of depression, so that's all my brain can come up with just now.
HawBawJaws wrote:Aye, that.
How about this - instead of me trying to convince you why it's a good reason for Scotland to leave the union, how about you try and convince me why it's a good reason for us to stay? Or, if we weren't already in the union, how would you convince us to join? I mean, dyou see any countries lining up to join the commonwealth?
Diluted Dante wrote:Yeah, there's no way we'd have any claim to natural resources within Scotlands territory.
If the UK wanted to keep any military installation in Scotland, they'd have to pay for it. The SNP seem keen on Trident fucking off though.
I'd love to see a source for the the taxpayer paying for the oil infrastructure thing, oil companies did it as far as I know.cockbeard wrote:The gas and oil prospecting and the infrastructure to get it out was paid for by the uk taxpayer. So to that end the uk taxpayer has a stake in anything that comes out of the sea. To stretch your broadband analogy even further, it's more like your neighbour fitted your broadband system for you, got you connected up to the main trunks, and being as our village is so far out of the way it cost him a helluva lot to lay all the cables to get linked up to the main network which is several miles away. When you decide you want broadband, he not unreasonably asks you to make a contribution to his outlay for getting the village connected, much like all the other residents have done
The irony that is clearly missed when thinking brexit and indyref are completely different subjects is hilarious though
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