I think they'd need much better AI to have limited ammo. I can't think of a single game where I don't think I'd be able to use the ammo thing to make it piss easy.

Even Halo on Legendary?

You.

Easier yes, but piss easy?

They could fall back to a supply dump, or have ammo brought forward to them. That could be an extra strategy, take out the ammo runners to isolate a group of enemies. Games like halo wouldn't work because it's just not that type of game, but a realistic or semi realistic shooter would benefit from it.

Going back to the OP's point, I've recently been a bit indifferent to gaming and I think it's because all the games I have at the moment seem to be ones filled with bleak settings and dark gameplay, full of killing and relentless horror/tension.

I decided to borrow Super Mario 3D Land this week and it's already seen more game time than anything I own has seen in the last two weeks. I honestly believe that Nintendo magic, or even just the fun element that the likes of Mario can bring to games, is all I was missing.

I guess maybe we all need to play something fun and colourful once in a while, to offset the endless violence and darkness that fills our games these days.

Just a thought.

GurtTractor wrote:

I do like a game where killing isn't always required, Hitman: Blood Money is a good example.

Man, how could I forget that; the satisfaction of leaving somewhere with just your target dead in an apparent accident was incredible, and all the more so when you realised you could just run around with 8 weapons and kill everyone in the whole place if you wanted.

GooberTheHat wrote:

Its not about stealth for me. Its about the AI having a sense of self preservation, a fight or flight response. I would like them to have priorities.  Is continuing to try and kill me, considering the current likely hood of them failing to do so and being killed by me, going to have a better outcome than them not trying to kill me and surrendering/escaping and having to face whatever consequences might arise from that course of action.

You should try SWAT 4.  They'd have a morale level, invisible to you, but it'd decrease if you yelled at them, if you hit them with flashbangs or gas grenades, or if you fired weapons to show willing, or if you injured them, or if they found their mates' corpses etc etc.  All of those factors went into deciding whether he'd run, stand and fight, or just drop his weapon and surrender.  Very clever.

It's still entirely playable now, I still have my discs!

I liked the Tom Clancy games that used the headset mic for commands to your subordinates, and fed their feedback through it.  Awesome.

Did anyone try SWAT 2? It was a top-down RTS where you could control negotiations to a limited extent and even send some grub round for the perps. A very different game to 3 & 4 but still tons of fun.

I've been playing Deathspank recently. I'm really not bored with mindless killing yet.

Bollockoff wrote:

Did anyone try SWAT 2? It was a top-down RTS where you could control negotiations to a limited extent and even send some grub round for the perps. A very different game to 3 & 4 but still tons of fun.

Yup! Still have my copy somewhere, too.

Do it, you'll enjoy SWAT 3.  It only falls down in later levels where it tries to get too clever for its own AI.

i too am somewhat tired of it all. i missed out on bioshock infinite and dishonoured mostly because they were violent fps games. i just cba. probably a few others as well that i saw stuff about and just filed under not interested.

that said i do love a good resi game and did enjoy sleeping dogs so maybe i'm a hypocrite...

another reason why i liked vanquish/binary domain so much. all the bad guys being robots kinda removed the violence in a "hero turtles" kind of way.

Yeah you can.