Retro Gaming - The Bear and Badger

davyK

Moot_Geeza wrote:

There's a Llamasoft feature in Retro Gamer this month

Of course there effing is!

afgavinstan

Final Fight 3 on the snes emu on the Vita. Nice and solid.

Moot_Geeza

Played that last year, it's a good'un. Shame about the slowdown though.

tin_robot

Eric wrote:

Just downloaded Llamasoft: The Jeff Minter Story. It's £25 but I feel given his gaming legacy it will be well worth it. Made by the Atari 50 guys.

I've spent a very pleasant evening with that.

It's part video game compendium, part documentary - detailing the career of The Yak from his early ZX81 programming days up until Tempest on the Jaguar. (It stops there I'm afraid, so no Space Giraffe or Polybius).

There's lots of videos, interviews with the man himself, fans, critics and, yes, llamas. There's also sketches, manuals, early bits of code and pretty much anything anyone remotely interested in his stuff would find interesting. That includes games. Lots and lots of games. The early ones are, of course, almost unplayable by modern standards - but Attack of the Mutant Camels still has a certain charm - whilst there's a genuine delight in seeing how GridRunner has evolved over its many, many iterations, including a brand new one.

Most importantly, there is Llamatron, which is all I really need. I bloody love Llamatron.

afgavinstan

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Played that last year, it's a good'un. Shame about the slowdown though.

That's hilarious because it's the first time I've ever had to go into the emu menu and turn on a framerate cap. On the Vita the game loaded up and was playing like I was on speed. So weird.

poprock

tin_robot wrote:

Most importantly, there is Llamatron, which is all I really need. I bloody love Llamatron.

I spent a lot of time with Llamatron on the ST.

Blue Swirl

Diluted Dante wrote:

Wookienopants wrote:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006385613227.html

Don't knock it until you've tried it. I get a lot of YouTube hits.

davyK

Played Llamatron on the PC which was enjoyable.

That and Gridrunner are the two games that interest me on the Minter collection. Have T2K courtesy of Atari 50. But I do like the idea of exploring the other games.

Blue Swirl

So, I know that the Vita and 3DS are easily soft modded these days. What’s the equivalent in consoles? I know you can grab an Everdrive for most cartridge-basedsystems, but what’s the go to machine for jail breaking and ~~ROMz~~ home brew?

LivDiv

Wii is pretty good and can obviously play Wii/GC natively. Im not sure if you can emulate Wii games that use motion one to one elsewhere.

Series S is great for iirc anything up to PS2 gen? Maybe Comfortable PS1 and game dependant PS2 actually.
Series X will do PS2 I think.

Diluted Dante

Xbox has some ROM thing doesn't it?

EvilRedEye

With Vita there’s some website you can go on with the web browser to hack it these days. With 3DS I don’t think there’s anything that easy but there are websites that will guide you through it and there’s an app (forget what it’s called) that is like a fake eShop and lets you download everything direct on your 3DS.

I think I may have answered the wrong question?

If you want to hack a fairly recent console, best bet is probably Wii U. Has a good hacking community and it has the GC and Wii logic on there for those as well. I think messing with PS3 and 360 still has a risk of you being banned on current machines.

LivDiv

Forgot Wii U was hackable. Id probably go for that if you have one or a Wii if you want to pick something up cheap to tinker with.

mk64

thank you for the haldheld suggestions! Friend says thank you!

monkey

Blue Swirl wrote:

So, I know that the Vita and 3DS are easily soft modded these days. What’s the equivalent in consoles? I know you can grab an Everdrive for most cartridge-basedsystems, but what’s the go to machine for jail breaking and ~~ROMz~~ home brew?

Current gen Xbox has a completely legal Developer mode which lets you run your own stuff. And since it's Windows-based, there's a fair bit of stuff available. Not tried it mind. DS has that set up I think.

Wookienopants

We all love a good haldheld

Moot_Geeza

Diluted Dante wrote:

Xbox has some ROM thing doesn't it?

The Oldbox was a go to for emulators for a while.

Moot_Geeza

Also the Mini consoles are decent. The PS Mini is anyway, that was my main emulator before I went back to handhelds. £18 incredibly well spent.

Blue Swirl

Good info gents, thanks.

Time_on_my_hands

poprock wrote:

tin_robot wrote:

Most importantly, there is Llamatron, which is all I really need. I bloody love Llamatron.

I spent a lot of time with Llamatron on the ST.

Llamatron is a thing of beauty and if you hit pause at the right time when killed you can hear Jeff (I'm assuming it was Jeff) shout "Oh FUCK" without the explosion played over the "UCK"

(At least you could on the ST version)

ChopperByrne

Picked up an issue of Retro Gamer today on whim, with a 100 best retro games feature.

So many Sega arcade games. They really are the king of coin-ops.

What I thought was odd was the lack of lightgun games from the list.

No Virtua Cop, Time Crisis, Point Blank, Duck Hunt or House of the Dead.

Right game, and version of it at number one though.

nick_md

What was it?

ChopperByrne

Tetris on Game Boy.

The NES version was definitely better, but the GB one is so much more important. It really was a system seller.

nick_md

Fair

Blue Swirl

ChopperByrne wrote:

Tetris on Game Boy.

nick_md wrote:

Fair

Definitely a reasonable shout, given the criteria.

davyK

It's there with NES SMB1 for sure. GB tetris started real handheld gaming, SMB1 on NES restarted home consoles. Both still as playable as at release.

EvilRedEye

I suspect lightgun games suffer because they’re unemulable. Like I’m 36 and by the time I was working and had the disposable income to buy whatever gaming paraphernalia I wanted, CRTs were already on the way out. And I just didn’t live near an arcade as a kid. I think you would have to be a specific generation or just happened to have been gifted a lightgun or whatever to vote for that specific kind of game.

davyK

Was never a genre I played much because they ate coins too quickly. I liked Shoot Away ... the Namco clay shooting sim and Operation Wolf. Only really got into light gun on the Wii.

Op Wolf is really an analogue stick game.

Moot_Geeza

For me Op Wolf is a holding my mate's Light Phaser 2 cm from the screen game.

LivDiv

When I was a teen I lived walking distance to a service station so used to go there for KFC and the like. They had a Silent Scope cab converted to be a gambling machine.
Turns out it was a whole thing Konami did.

It was pretty much Silent Scope from what I can remember but at the end of the level you had to shoot prizes on a spinnign wheel to cash out your score.

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