16 Bit - The Bear and Badger

Escape

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Doom was fun and smooth but heavily bordered and probably worse than the SNES one.

I'm not having that! 32X DOOM had the worst sound of all the ports, borders, and not many levels, but its movement was a lot less eye-wongling than the SNES version, and it looked a bit nicer.

Bird Show Racing Deluxe, indeed, but look to the Saturn or Windows 95 for Virtua Fighter.

Yossarian

Diluted Dante wrote:

The Master System version is great, no idea what the difference is though.

The Mega CD version was basically a point and click adventure with FMV backgrounds as I recall. Admittedly, I haven't played it in a while.

Escape

Mega-CD

Ecco the Dolphin
Ground Zero: Texas
Road Avenger
Sol-Feace
Thunderhawk

Eric

Robocop Vs Terminator was great on the Megadrive, less so on the SNES. It still plays well, looks good today, it gets really hard late on though a Moot will testify.

[Deleted User]

AJ wrote:

hylian_elf wrote:

Has anyone mentioned SNES Shadowrun?

Oh, shit, yeah. Remembered that as I went to bed last night ('cause I was playing Megaman X and saw it in the ROM list) but forgot.

Is Harvest Moon worth mentioning? I've never played it despite having it on my phone and being pretty sure it's one of the few SNES games that'll be workable on touchscreen. In fact, looking at my phone now, has Cybernator been mentioned?

Friends of mineral town on the gba is the definitive harvest moon - no need to play any of the others.

Eric

Snatcher, Final Fight, Eternal Champions Challenge From The Dark Side, Sonic Cd and that Batman game where you do the great looking Batmobile driving sections are all the decent MegaCD games I've played.

AJ

Childintime wrote:

Friends of mineral town on the gba is the definitive harvest moon - no need to play any of the others.

Except that I have a Bluetooth SNES controller and would need to order the GBA cart without even knowing if I enjoy the game type. I'll keep it in mind if I get on with the SNES one though, thanks.

[Deleted User]

AJ wrote:

Childintime wrote:

Friends of mineral town on the gba is the definitive harvest moon - no need to play any of the others.

Except that I have a Bluetooth SNES controller and would need to order the GBA cart without even knowing if I enjoy the game type. I'll keep it in mind if I get on with the SNES one though, thanks.

Ah, gotcha.

SNES and GBA ones are broadly similar except for the social depth aspect, which the GBA version gets perfect. Try the SNES one and see what you think.

Yossarian

Eric wrote:

Snatcher, Final Fight, Eternal Champions Challenge From The Dark Side, Sonic Cd and that Batman game where you do the great looking Batmobile driving sections are all the decent MegaCD games I've played.

Batman Returns.

As I say, the Core Mega CD games all deserve a look.

There are a fair few (arguably) definitive versions of 16 bit titles on Mega CD as well: Earthworm Jim, Flashback, both the MD Ecco games, NBA Jam (aside from the arcade, obvs), Pitfall the Mayan adventure. There was the Another World sequel on it as well, packaged with the first game.

AJ

Childintime wrote:

Ah, gotcha.

SNES and GBA ones are broadly similar except for the social depth aspect, which the GBA version gets perfect. Try the SNES one and see what you think.

I hope I like it, the Micro I got from Chump doesn't get nearly enough use and just holding it makes me smile.

Moot_Geeza

Diluted Dante wrote:

The Master System version is great, no idea what the difference is though.

It really is, had no idea until I played through it a couple of years ago.

Then there's the Lost World one on Megadrive, which deserves a place more far than the MD platformers imo.

MD Alien 3 starts really well (I can still recall the music and satisfying gun sounds) but gets crushingly boring by halfway.

Moot_Geeza

Escape wrote:

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Doom was fun and smooth but heavily bordered and probably worse than the SNES one.

I'm not having that! 32X DOOM had the worst sound of all the ports, borders, and not many levels, but its movement was a lot less eye-wongling than the SNES version, and it looked a bit nicer. Bird Show Racing Deluxe, indeed, but look to the Saturn or Windows 95 for Virtua Fighter.

But the enemies were front-facing at all times, meaning no exciting 'they're hitting each other!' moments, and the BFG was only available via a cheat code (and not at all if you'd broken the mode button on your 6-button pad in a SFII strop a couple of years earlier). Was definitely better than the Saturn version though.

JonB

Moot_Geeza wrote:

MD Alien 3 starts really well (I can still recall the music and satisfying gun sounds) but gets crushingly boring by halfway.

Thing is it was developed by Probe, who basically just churned out an almost identical platform shooter for a string of film licenses (Judge Dredd, Stargate, Batman Forever).

So while it was a solid enough formula to begin with, it wasn't very inspired and got repetitive quickly.

Vela

Amiga 500 must count in this era, surely? The 16bit era overlapped quite a lot in terms of ability with the Amiga.

From that then I nominate
Speedball 2 (obv)
Worms
Cabal
Defender of the Crown
Rodland

Jaco

I did a big post, Vela. A big post. You hurt my feelings.

optimark_prime

I'm amazed the Amiga hadn't been mentioned earlier.

(Just teasing Jim

)

Jaco

All the feels. All of them. Destroyed.

[Deleted User]

Hey guys, what about the amiga?

Jaco

You were a nice guy, Mike. What happened to you?

[Deleted User]

How do you know I'm no longer a guy?

Jaco

I have spies everywhere.

[Deleted User]

That's pretty hot.

Unlikely

Have only skim read this thread so might have missed it but is Herzog Zwei on the MD list? If not put Herzog Zwei on the MD list.

Cocko's done the right thing by having Revenge of Shinobi in the OP.

retroking1981

III is better than Revenge but both deserve a place in the list.

edit: as does Shadow Dancer

Unlikely

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND??

davyK

SNES

Super Mario World
Mario All Stars
Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Super Mario kart
Yoshi's Island
F Zero
Pilotwings
Super Punch Out
Super Castlevania IV
Plok
Pop n Twinbee Rainbow Bell Adventures
R-Type III
Legend of Mystical Ninja
Buster Busts Loose
Cybernator aka Assault Suits Valken
Kirby's Dream Course
Tetris Battle Gaiden
Super Bomberman
Smash Tennis
Super Aleste
Super Adventure Island
Street fighter II Turbo
Super Probotector/Contra III
Super Smash TV
Tetris Attack / Panel De Pon
Heberke's Popoitto
On The Ball / Cameltry
Pop n Twinbee (2D shmup not to be confused with Rainbow Bell Adventures)
Super Tetris + Bombliss
Out to Lunch

Megadrive-wise.

Sonic 1 & 2
Micro Machines '96
Super Fantasy Zone
Quackshot
Hellfire
Desert Strike
Sub-Terrania
Flicky
Dragon's Fury
Super Monaco GP
New Zealand Story
Twin Hawk
Space Invaders '91
Thunder Force IV
Toki

Jaco

retroking1981 wrote:

III is better than Revenge but both deserve a place in the list. edit: as does Shadow Dancer

You've angered a corpulent and vengeful being. Run, young man. Run.

hunk

SuperSF2 snes+md
Kirby's dreamland 3 snes
Twinkle Tale md
Alien Soldier md

retroking1981

Jaco wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

III is better than Revenge but both deserve a place in the list. edit: as does Shadow Dancer

You've angered a corpulent and vengeful being. Run, young man. Run.

I stand by my statement. Revenge had the bigger impact but I think III is a better game, just like Micro Machines 96 is superior to the more commonly loved 2.

Moot_Geeza

It's a close-run thing, but III runs out of steam slightly and some of the areas are far less appealing. You have more abilities in III and it lasts a bit longer, but Revenge edges it for me. Sometimes more simplistic is the sweet spot. Plus the music.

Revenge > GG > III > Shinobi arcade. All fantastic games.

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