Forza Horizon - The Bear and Badger

Bob

google wrote:

If that's true, then I apologies. I felt like he was having a pop at me for enjoying the skate/surf vibe.

No worries. I was explaining the three reasons I didn't like it. I wasn't having a pop at anyone.

Louiecat

Played the demo this arfy.

Oh dear it is SHITE.

Really vapid. The whole thing is indeed geared towards teenagers and that annoying woman who tries to make everything you do sound like its really "rad" and "cool" - I want to kill her after torturing her in a cellar for a few day.

Forza was so good as far as I was concerned because of its wonderful unfussiness: a clean interface that encouraged you simply to race other cars, win, tune and do it all again. Sure maybe the open world aspect is something that could work welll as an addition, but I switched completely off when I was suddenly racing checkpoints against an aeroplane. This is really Dirt - which I never got on with - not good old Forza: the accessible and cool version of Gran Turismo.

Don't get me wrong. I LOVE a good arcade racer - NFSHP is wonderful and exciting....this, however is jjust somehow annoying........even the handling feels dumbed down somehow....all the assists off and with the 360 wheel that works so well for Forza 4 - that "off-road" demo race is an easy joke.

Done - NFS Most Wanted for me this Winter.

Birdorf

So, am I the only one who likes this?

I can look past all the yo yo yo bling cobblers, I'm all about ghosts and time trialling, and it seems to do that well, although it looks like it might be possible to blast around corners smashing into barriers to get a fast time, which would be a disaster and that's the only thing stopping me getting it day one.
Thought the handling was OK.

Scarily, I've had two dreams about it.

Torturing people is wrong, especially virtual people.

Carbon_Altered

Birdorf wrote:

So, am I the only one who likes this?

Well you and most of the reviewers!

Seems a big disconnect on this here thread and the average review. I think it comes down to whether you can see past all the neon and teen-speak. The grumpy old sods in this place can't, but more "normal" people can.

I_R

I didn't hate it, I just didn't love it. I do think this was always on the back foot against NFS for Friday night shenanigans and the demo needed to blow people out of the water to change opinions.

Demo's for racers rarely do a great sales job as well.

I_R

Forza Horizon Rally ExpansionÂ 1,600 MS Points

google

I_R wrote:

Demo's for racers rarely do a great sales job as well.

Agreed.

Especially racers of this ilk where they're going for an 'open world' vibe.

FranticPea

I_R wrote:

Forza Horizon Rally ExpansionÂ 1,600 MS Points

1600? Wowzers.

google

Seems in line with their other Forza download packs. Porsche was 1600.

FranticPea

I guess I didn't pay attention to those seeing as I was stupid enough to pay for the season pass....!

Louiecat

Carbon_Altered wrote:

Birdorf wrote:

So, am I the only one who likes this?

Well you and most of the reviewers! Seems a big disconnect on this here thread and the average review. I think it comes down to whether you can see past all the neon and teen-speak. The grumpy old sods in this place can't, but more "normal" people can.

Fuck you the fuck off!!!! GRUMPY!!!????? I am NOT GRUMPY!! FUCKING SHITE I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY I AM GRUMPY!!!!!

regmcfly

4,000 point season pass? Jesus Christ. I have no real bug with DLC but good lord

google

Agreed, Reg.

I have no reference point for the people that are willing to spend over $100 on a single game and it's DLC.

regmcfly

This is where, of course I now start freaking out thinking about how much I spent on Fallout 3 DLC and worrying that it makes me a hypocrite, but I do see some difference in qualifying it in my head - from something that enhances the experience of the core game (Forza) to something that offers a new story etc like Fallout.

google

regmcfly wrote:

This is where, of course I now start freaking out thinking about how much I spent on Fallout 3 DLC and worrying that it makes me a hypocrite, but I do see some difference in qualifying it in my head - from something that enhances the experience of the core game (Forza) to something that offers a new story etc like Fallout.

If you put it that way...

I just dont care enough about cars. I have no real need to want to try and drive/test/play with all manner of different vehicles.Â

But I know there are people that love cars and loveÂ experimentingÂ withÂ theirÂ favouriteÂ super-carsÂ they see online.

I_R

Most people here can't really complain, we've indicated that we'll wait until it's Â£25 or not buy it at all.

Â There does seem to be something unhealthy about the way DLC has developed though, certain big titles already scoop up a huge percentage of the pre-Christmas sales, successfully charging a chunk of their buyers Â£70 instead of Â£40 is only going to squeeze the also rans even more.

Webbins

I don't mind DLC as a whole, but the way publishers have treated the consumers with their practices has been incredibly dubious. Premium services, on disc DLC, cut content, etc. shady and shitty. Haven't bought one season pass or premium sub this gen, and most DLC I haven't suffered in picking up when it's discounted. It'll carry on the way it has though into the next gen.

MattyJ

regmcfly wrote:

This is where, of course I now start freaking out thinking about how much I spent on Fallout 3 DLC and worrying that it makes me a hypocrite, but I do see some difference in qualifying it in my head - from something that enhances the experience of the core game (Forza) to something that offers a new story etc like Fallout.

How much did you spend on Theat Rhythm DLC again?

regmcfly

Fuck. That.

I knew I had secret shame. But for me that was like buying an iTunes track. Again, in my own shitty internal logic I've justified it.

As I'm sure those people spending 4000 points on cars will.

afgavinstan

My justification for buying the Forza 4 Season Pass was "hey I'm gonna get a shit-ton of cars to use in all those nights of multiplayer we're gonna have".

Oh wait..

Mod74

I bought the Season Pass day one. Downloaded one pack, never played any of the cars in it...and haven't downloaded another pack. In fact, I haven't even played the game since then.

Bit of a waste really, should probably have another look.

MattyJ

After getting fucked off with the Gears 3 multiplayer and not really playing it, I decided to not buy season passes when in the giddy early days of a new game.

g.man

Rule Number 1 of Gaming.

NEVER BUY A SEASON PASS...EVER.

Skondo

I don't understand why you would pay in advance for dlc when you don't even know what it will be.

google

Skondo wrote:

I don't understand why you would pay in advance for dlc when you don't even know what it will be.

Because you do know what it's going to be in this instance.

More cars.

Moto70

...and because it could be a game that you know you will buy DLC for so you may as well save some pennies in the long run.

Skondo

google wrote:

Skondo wrote:

I don't understand why you would pay in advance for dlc when you don't even know what it will be.

Because you do know what it's going to be in this instance.

More cars.

Moto70 wrote:

...and because it could be a game that you know you will buy DLC for so you may as well save some pennies in the long run.

Okay, fair enough. Just not something I would do.

Webbins

Really shouldn't be encouraging the practice of season passes. A promise of perceived value against the quality of future content is still a gamble. Be honest, have publishers got your wallet or their bottom line in mind when pushing these subs? Saving on five or six packs with a pass is only worth it if they individually justify their worth.

I just worry that this is pushing us too far towards an F2P future where the barebones is free and content comes in packs, but spending is less quantifiable than Â£40 for a disc. Pubs would love us to dribble Â£60+ in increments over several months rather than the release day hit because we are less likely to monitor this spending.

I would love to be proved wrong but I've not seen anything with BF3's sub that screams essential, and I still expect the tail end to be season pass filler.

Moto70

Skondo wrote:

google wrote:

Skondo wrote:

I don't understand why you would pay in advance for dlc when you don't even know what it will be.

Because you do know what it's going to be in this instance. More cars.

Moto70 wrote:

...and because it could be a game that you know you will buy DLC for so you may as well save some pennies in the long run.

Okay, fair enough. Just not something I would do.

I'm on your side Skondo, I was just playing Devil's advocate.

Borderlands 2 has me in dilemma because the DLC has been released so soon after release which to me means that is a pure money making exercise because it could have been released as part of the game as it was obviously made side-by-side with the 'main' game. The dilemma is that Borderlands 2 is such a big game to start with so you're not losing anything by not having it but on the flipside it is a massive map with new weapons, new enemies and new vehicles so you are actually getting something for your money. Then you look at Mass Effect 3 which has been constantly drip feeding us with new maps, new weapons and new characters all for the grand sum of nothing.

So here you have it, 2 really good quality DLC's one that appears to be nothing more than a money spinner and one that feels like it is there as a gift to those that are enjoying a game.

The only truth is that PDLC is here to stay and I think is going to increase.

google

Have we seen this video? It's quite fun.

http://kotaku.com/5953024/forza-horizion-is-best-played-as-a-ryan-gosling-simulator

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