People actually do that? Â Maybe it's my demeanour, but I've never had someone try that on.Tempy wrote:Well it's the same as Beats Headphones isn't it? You look everywhere, every sod has them and they take a look at my tiny sennheiser buds and tell me I've not got a clue and I just laugh.Elmlea wrote:I'm more impressed with whoever made their fortune by selling AIDS champagne for $4000 a bottle to idiots who think it's flash. Â Reminds me of the episode of 30 Rock where Jack's disgraceful champagne was shifted by associating it with LL Cool J despite it tasting like poison.
Skerret wrote:People actually do that? Â Maybe it's my demeanour, but I've never had someone try that on.Well it's the same as Beats Headphones isn't it? You look everywhere, every sod has them and they take a look at my tiny sennheiser buds and tell me I've not got a clue and I just laugh.I'm more impressed with whoever made their fortune by selling AIDS champagne for $4000 a bottle to idiots who think it's flash. Â Reminds me of the episode of 30 Rock where Jack's disgraceful champagne was shifted by associating it with LL Cool J despite it tasting like poison.
g.man wrote:Are we all communists now? oh my g.man
Tempy wrote:There is a particularly gauche (gonna use that word AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NOW AHAHAH) character in my lit class who has. He has lime green Beatz with red cables (red and green should never be seen etc). Now this is the guy that is in the following situation: plays for Derby Uni football and dodgeball teams. Has a model for a girlfriend. Professes to be totally Christian. Deplorable attitude towards women, openly planning to cheat on his girlfriend when he goes to Uni. Parents buy his: clothes, car, petrol, fund his course, give him money for food + drink etc, proceeded to tell me that I'd "not seen the Hobbit" because i'd not watched it in HFR. When discussing Gothic literature with lecturer, questioned why the Asylum from American Horror story wasn't listed as an asylum on the powerpoin. Said that in Dracula they should have just "ripped out Lucy's heart like in Vampire Diaries." Then, THEN decides to tell me my Sennys are shit and that "beats are sponsored by Dre so of course they're good" I just laughed and walked off. In the end it's ok though because he got a bare minimum pass in his last assignment and I got a distinction so fuck him.
equinox_code wrote:Yea, i'm going down that other path of nobody needs a million pounds. Moreover, nobody can possibly earn it either, not least in the space of a few years.
Tempy wrote:He's a gauche tool. I use him to paint. I do sit in our classes and wonder sometimes why people have picked lit. I mean I am not a prolific reader, i'm terrible at it (because of this damn forum) but there are people who just haven't read a book. It's gouache, I know, I know.
Blue Swirl wrote:Twonk. Tosh. Twiddle. One might even say bullshit, if one were uncharitable. If the only reason we did anything was due to profit, then we'd be in a sorry state indeed. You should read something along the lines of 'Mutual Aid' by Kropotkin. Working together, for the benefit of others without regard to reward for oneself, has been just as big a driving force in human history as the desire to accumulate wealth. Not saying that we shouldn't reward those that work harder, but what possible work can someone be doing to warrant spending tens of thousands of pounds, more than most people in the world will see in their lifetimes, on a few rounds of drink? There's being rewarded for a job well done, and there's taking the fucking smeg. There's a fair pay, well earned, and there's living like a goddamn king at the expense of others (i.e., those having their benefits slashed to pay for the mistakes of the ultra rich bankers we had to bail out, who then used that bail out money to give themselves enormous bonuses. For nearly bankrupting us all.) tl;dr - Profit is not, and should not be, the only driving factor behind human advancement. Secondly, there's a difference between getting what you deserve and bleeding others dry to line your own pockets. In the mean time, here's a picture of a happy cat. [img]Lord_Griff wrote:Without competition, or appropriate reward for moving toward the upper end if the bell curve the human race would still be hunting and gathering. There would be no slack in the system to do the socially responsible acts of providing for those who truly can't help themselves.
Elmlea wrote:I'll genuinely look forward to your opinions on this, because I'm sure people can earn that. Â Look at Steve Jobs or Bill Gates; not exactly just money-grabbing banker types trading on misfortunes, but they did things that built entire companies, sustaining thousands of jobs, driving research and advancement on, and really cracked into what people want. With the amount he managed to grow Microsoft, isn't Bill Gates justified in saying he earned $1Bn or whatever, considering that's a fraction of what the company he made is worth, a fraction of its turnover, and a fraction of the salaries it pays to it employees?equinox_code wrote:Yea, i'm going down that other path of nobody needs a million pounds. Moreover, nobody can possibly earn it either, not least in the space of a few years.
Elmlea wrote:The only bit I disagree with you about is his parents helping with stuff. Â I fully intend to be in the situation where when Nim goes to uni I can afford to buy her a car, help with her rent, bills, petrol, whatever. Â I'll still encourage her to work unless she ends up studying something like medicine, but I don't think people are made into dicks just because their parents have the means to provide for them a bit when in higher education. Â I think this guy's a dick, but he'd be just as much of a dick if he was running to the hardship fund every couple of months.He's a gauche tool. I use him to paint. I do sit in our classes and wonder sometimes why people have picked lit. I mean I am not a prolific reader, i'm terrible at it (because of this damn forum) but there are people who just haven't read a book. It's gouache, I know, I know.
pantyfire wrote:He came from Greece, he had a thirst for knowledge.He studied lit at St Martins college.
That's where Tempy caught his eye.Â
He told me hs dad was loaded...
Blue Swirl wrote:Lord_Griff wrote:Without competition, or appropriate reward for moving toward the upper end if the bell curve the human race would still be hunting and gathering. There would be no slack in the system to do the socially responsible acts of providing for those who truly can't help themselves.
Twonk. Tosh. Twiddle. One might even say bullshit, if one were uncharitable. If the only reason we did anything was due to profit, then we'd be in a sorry state indeed. You should read something along the lines of 'Mutual Aid' by Kropotkin. Working together, for the benefit of others without regard to reward for oneself, has been just as big a driving force in human history as the desire to accumulate wealth.
Not saying that we shouldn't reward those that work harder, but what possible work can someone be doing to warrant spending tens of thousands of pounds, more than most people in the world will see in their lifetimes, on a few rounds of drink? There's being rewarded for a job well done, and there's taking the fucking smeg. There's a fair pay, well earned, and there's living like a goddamn king at the expense of others (i.e., those having their benefits slashed to pay for the mistakes of the ultra rich bankers we had to bail out, who then used that bail out money to give themselves enormous bonuses. For nearly bankrupting us all.)
tl;dr - Profit is not, and should not be, the only driving factor behind human advancement. Secondly, there's a difference between getting what you deserve and bleeding others dry to line your own pockets.
In the mean time, here's a picture of a happy cat.
What you said is still shite though. Counter factual history is always dodgy ground, so not good to make absolute statements about it.Lord_Griff wrote:I didn't say profit, I said appropriate reward. By that I mean a benefit derived from differentiating oneself from the mean through hard work etc. Learn to fucking read.
And hope that what you like happens to be something that can earn you a load of money.Lord_Griff wrote:People should stop worrying about how rich other people are. Focus on yourself. Strive to be better. Educate yourself. Identify what you are good at and what you enjoy. Align your working life with that and all will come good. Learn to spend less than you earn. Try harder at all things relative to your peers. Understand that you may have to sacrifice leisure time to achieve your goals, although if your goals are associated with something you love doing, it can hardly be a sacrifice. I was once told that the key to success is to find something that you would be happy doing for the rest of your life. Not an easy task, you can start by categorically removing the tasks you hate.
Umm.... he has argued for higher tax rates though, hasn't he?JonB wrote:Also, nobody can make a billion without exploiting folks, and Bill Gates certainly never did. His 'philanthropy' is a way of avoiding the democratic process by deciding for himself what social projects are deserving, as opposed to a system where the super rich pay a very high level of tax, and (in principle) the electorate gets to decide how it's used.
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