djchump wrote:I'm not going to bother joining in until you bother to use words correctly to mean the things they're supposed to mean.revelthedog wrote:I still don't see where you are coming from, except to sit and the sidelines and not join in.
All pointless. The Earth will be uninhabitable in 2 billion years and wiped out by the sun going nova in 5 billion.Gonzo wrote:What about our reality, the real things created by social interaction (essentially language, meaning)? They're real to us. I think that point of view overlooks our own ability to create reality. What about consciousness, and our interactions with the physical world? What about free will? Why can we understand what we do about the physical world? Will we understand more of it? Why are we here? Why can we ask the question? Are either of these questions significant in the light of your assessment? I think there's plenty of marvelous things out there. Religiosity and spiritualism can help get a handle on it, or like you, they can help us give up on a futile enterprise because, well, deus ex machina. It's neutral, really. You can be an atheist and a nihilist, or you can have blind faith in another construct. You can be religious and seek to understand, like for example the translation movement and breakthroughs thereafter in abbasid baghdad. Because God told you to, or because what he created is worth investigating; or because you reject god and you think everything can be explained without a deity . It's just motivation.
Hulka T wrote:Thatskindadepressing
exactly. I was explaining my thoughts. I felt I was being lynched for an opinion.LittleFranklin wrote:I believe in a God, no real reason why, it's just so deeply ingrained in me that I can't even consider the possibility that there isn't one. But I don't get angry at people who don't because there's no reasonable reason why they should.
revelthedog wrote:Â I'm a scientist as well.
He really gets a bit - passionate about these things.
exactly. I was explaining my thoughts. I felt I was being lynched for an opinion.
I wasn't raised as a religion follower.
I came by my decision after long periods of thought.
VB, eugh. I'm out of popcorn and there is no god.Paul the sparky wrote:Proper Friday thread this 'un. Pass the popcorn Skerret you greedy VB drinking bastard.
I have just discovered a tube of Pringles in the kitchen cupboard.Skerret wrote:I'm out of popcorn and there is no god.
Facewon wrote:Can we still access the old old forum? Even just to read. Interested to do a bit of then and now comparison.
Anyone think they're in a very different space re god and religion and spirituality etc compared to where they were.
Well my parents believe in God, but I've never seen any need to examine my beliefs. I don't really follow any religion.Raiziel wrote:But Franklin, don't you want to question why you believe in something?
revelthedog wrote:Just confirmed that there is something inside us more than nerves and electrical impulses that make us who we are.
Raiziel wrote:You thought these people were stupid beforehand?
cockbeard wrote:Why should people choose to examine only their choice in religion. We all place faith in many principles, yet not everyone is expected to deeply examine and progress the study of each of them. Hell, if they were the Nobel Laureate shortlist would be massive but we'd have no food or industry. Also can we draw a line between Atheism (irrational faith in complete lack of higher power) and agnosticism (meh, we'll find out)
How do you imagine a natural God would work?Mouldywarp wrote:Personally, I can accept the existence of a natural god but not of a supernatural one. If god exists it may well be beyond human comprehension, but it isn't beyond nature. And as most people take god to mean supernatural, I tend not to use the word when describing my own beliefs.
LittleFranklin wrote:Do you think games predispose people towards atheism, depicting God simply as another trivial mythological character, only there to provide stat boosts or act as a final boss. Can't think of any games that treat the idea of God with any kind of reverence.
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