Well relative to me its the dark side. ;p And I'm the centre of the universe.voices wrote:Far side, not dark side - the moon is tidally locked to the earth not the sun.It would be handy to eliminate noise pollution but I'm not sure that payoff would justify the cost.Isn't there talk of building a radio telescope of the dark side of the moon?
That's fantastic value, especially if you got a good sample.superflyninja wrote:This is what I have. I bought it for a song(40euro) in Lidl last year. I've seen the moons of (and) Jupiter in it. So awesome. And the moon looks amazing. I need to take it out more this winter.
I think laser finders are much easier to use.superflyninja wrote:The difficultly Im having though is lining up the finder scope with the scope itself.
You mean probability calculations though? Im talking more about their search for inhabitable planets(like yesterday's announcement). They seem to be mainly looking for planets that could be inhabited by earth like organisms. Which is fair enough, but it makes me think about how little we actually know. They could be dismissing planets because they dont match our criteria but could be home to completely alien.....alienslegaldinho wrote:Calculations already factor for that, they also factor for other civs being at or beyond our stage of communication tech.
I really need to work on posting clearly and having my posts make sense. I meant that we are the cavemen and the aliens are communicating in some far out way amongst themselves we have not even dreamt of yet and we are oblivious. We are searching the universe in a very limited(but improving) manner!SpaceGazelle wrote:Could be that the advanced don't bother with us dafties and communicate among their peers using gravitational waves or something, could be there's only one telescope planet per galaxy, could be anything.
superflyninja wrote:Ah sorry, I've not been clear: The Fermi paradox or Fermi's paradox, named after physicist Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between the lack of evidence and high probability estimates <- from wiki What I meant was we have a very narrow search, we are trying to find Earth twins,we are probably missing stuff left right and centre! Yesterday's announcement is cool though that there could be alien planets we could possibly survive on, but it doesnt excite me greatly about finding ETI there
Oh totally, it makes sense to look planets that would support life similar to us(our planet's biology), since we are the only known case of life.In my roundabout way Im wondering what we are missing though, like silicon based life or space whales or something!cockbeard wrote:I claim no knowledge, but the fact that all the life we know of on this planet is ridiculously similar to ourselves, number of limbs, hemispheric brains as well as redundancy across the same plane, kind of mnakes you think that perhaps we are designed (sorry, poor choice of word) pretty bloody well, so why not look for planets with similar characteristics, we'd have the best chance at communication, although we'd likely find creatures similar to what we knowAh sorry, I've not been clear: The Fermi paradox or Fermi's paradox, named after physicist Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between the lack of evidence and high probability estimates <- from wiki What I meant was we have a very narrow search, we are trying to find Earth twins,we are probably missing stuff left right and centre! Yesterday's announcement is cool though that there could be alien planets we could possibly survive on, but it doesnt excite me greatly about finding ETI there
yes, i mixed in two topics in my post, one got me thinking of the other. The search for suitable planets is what got me thinking about what different types of intelligent life could be out there etc etc.legaldinho wrote:That's not what the Fermi paradox or Drake equations are about though. It's concerned with intelligent life
cockbeard wrote:I claim no knowledge, but the fact that all the life we know of on this planet is ridiculously similar to ourselves, number of limbs, hemispheric brains as well as redundancy across the same plane, kind of mnakes you think that perhaps we are designed (sorry, poor choice of word) pretty bloody well, so why not look for planets with similar characteristics, we'd have the best chance at communication, although we'd likely find creatures similar to what we knowAh sorry, I've not been clear: The Fermi paradox or Fermi's paradox, named after physicist Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between the lack of evidence and high probability estimates <- from wiki What I meant was we have a very narrow search, we are trying to find Earth twins,we are probably missing stuff left right and centre! Yesterday's announcement is cool though that there could be alien planets we could possibly survive on, but it doesnt excite me greatly about finding ETI there
superflyninja wrote:I really need to work on posting clearly and having my posts make sense. I meant that we are the cavemen and the aliens are communicating in some far out way amongst themselves we have not even dreamt of yet and we are oblivious. We are searching the universe in a very limited(but improving) manner!SpaceGazelle wrote:Could be that the advanced don't bother with us dafties and communicate among their peers using gravitational waves or something, could be there's only one telescope planet per galaxy, could be anything.
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