As we all know, everyone is complicit to some extent in the state of the world. Cheap clothes, technology products, cheap food, beef, flying, not giving enough to charity, whatever the fuck it is it’s bad and you’re probably doing it.

So it is really about personal lines, beyond which you decide (or are persuaded) not to cross - and the lines are blurry, and moveable: maybe you learn something new which makes you think again about something.

In this case, this World Cup in Qatar, it’s beyond my line for a number of reasons, most of which Dante posted up there. As a Chelsea fan it may be the pinnacle of hypocrisy!

Funkstain wrote:

As we all know, everyone is complicit to some extent in the state of the world. Cheap clothes, technology products, cheap food, beef, flying, not giving enough to charity, whatever the fuck it is it’s bad and you’re probably doing it.

So it is really about personal lines, beyond which you decide (or are persuaded) not to cross - and the lines are blurry, and moveable: maybe you learn something new which makes you think again about something.

In this case, this World Cup in Qatar, it’s beyond my line for a number of reasons, most of which Dante posted up there. As a Chelsea fan it may be the pinnacle of hypocrisy!

How is this not the end of whatever has happened.

The line is blurry, if someone is past your line here, unless they're like killing migrant workers is lit, you maybe try and persuade and then leave it. Partridge shrug.

Added, cheers.

The world is run by cunts. Always has been unfortunately. I might move to Costa Rica.

Yup. Really better to have not done anything than back out.
”Sorry LGBTs but we’ll drop you like a sack of hot shit under the slightest pressure.”

Still at least it’s exposed the FA.

Always been a Pro Evo man myself

Add me to the “not a football fan generally, but also not watching because of Qatar” list.
Can’t with all certainty promise that if a UK team gets to the semis or final that I won’t watch it, but it’s definitely in my mind that 1,000s of workers have died over the past 10 years or so (?) building this thing.
As with all things human though, my actions are riddled with hypocrisy as the company I work for does AV installation work all over the world, including out in Qatar and Abu Dhabi.

I decided before the WC that I would be actively ignoring the tournament (boycott is too strong a word I feel). It's not much of a gesture I know, but just me making a small stance in my own way. I have some friends who are watching and I'm not judging anyone. It's easy for me to miss out on anyway, as I'm not fussed about international footy. I really don't hold anything against the players for going and playing there, after all, the WC is the pinnacle of football for a lot of players and they may only get 1 or 2 shots at it. They didn't choose Qatar.

Now, having decided to quietly just avoid the tournament, it's turning out to be pretty hard to do. Not the matches themselves, but all the toxic drama surrounding the event. There's a constant bombardment of memes and drama. The armband climbdown was absolutely pathetic, with teams getting themselves into a position where they had to choose between "standing up for what they believe in" (yeah right) and a yellow card. The path they took is not a good look.

I'll look out for the Brit teams' results but that will be it.

It would be so England to win the shit World Cup.

I wasn't going to watch this because it should never have been awarded to Qatar.

Then my 9yo son was super excited to watch. It's hard to try justify to an excited child why he can't watch the World Cup when the reasons are just beyond anything a child should be having to think about.

Seeing how upset Kris was, has made me think.

I also get a bit angry when I read the stories about people getting turned away for wearing rainbow colours. Shit is maddening. Football is culturally bankrupt enough as it is.

Its a lot easier to not watch the WC than it is to not heat my house or drive my car.

almost cheaper to go to Qatar and watch the world cup for a month instead though

I'll watch it... but I won't enjoy it.