Wariospeedwagon wrote:

Has to be a matter of time for everything not published by Nintendo!  Be strong.   I'm in the same boat with River City Girls.  In a post SOR4 world that's a 75% off game surely.

In a post SOR4 world it's not worth it. Even pre SOR4 it wasn't much good.

@Jon that's a shame, thought it looked pretty stylish.  Oh well.

@Moot Was wondering why I didn't see that, but it turns out it never got a Switch release in Australia lol.  Will have to keep an eye on the international stores.

Yeah definitely Hotline Miami Collection isn't available.  You can get the first game on Playstation and PC but the second was refused classification.

You can also get Mother Russia on Steam here lol.  

Doing a bit of reading online this afternoon (anything to avoid work) I speculate Devolver figure that dealing with the Australian Classification Board isn't worth the trouble, when you can change regions on the Switch without much fuss and buy their controversial games.

66. Sonic Mania - Encore Mode (Switch, 3hrs 18 mins)

What I originally thought in one of these threads:

Probably the best Sonic experience since Knuckles + 3, and surpasses that in places.  Over the moon with what they've done here - imo it takes the best of Sonic and adds better bosses.  So far I've just played one run to the credits, but I've got nothing but fondness for the experience.  Will be there or thereabouts as my GotY.  [9]

Which I'd pretty much stick to.  It deserved a slightly more in-depth take at the time really, given that it was pretty much the best thing Sega could possibly have done with a new Sonic.  It was a crying shame the Saturn never hosted a new 2D Sonic game, but Christian Whitehead & co. basically created a modern 32-bit Sonic game that played like remastered greatest hits, with a smattering of valid bonus tracks.  The bulk of the game was made up of familiar stages (with new layouts) from the only golden era of Sonic - '91-94 - packed with familiar music and built around the only three characters worth their salt.  The bonus stages were outstanding, loosely based on the Sonic CD special stages, and it's probably fair to call them the best in the series.  The Sonic 2 tunnel is iconic but was never particularly playable (not with both characters at any rate - did anyone ever get all the emeralds with Tails mimicking their movements an entire second behind the inputs? ).  That format was probably 'perfected' in the Saturn port of Sonic 3D.  I quite liked the blue sphere stages from Sonic 3, and they returned to Mania alongside the flat shaded polygon chase-the-UFO sections.

It was a brilliant update because it did everything Sonic did well, but with extra finesse and variety.  This was never going to win anyone over to the Sanic format - surely all gamers over a certain age know whether they liked the Megadrive Sonic games or not - but for existing fans it was an absolute treat, up there with Sonic 2 and Sonic 3+Knuckles for sure.  A year or so after launch the 'Plus' dlc arrived, which I grabbed for cheap on Switch.  The Encore mode adds two characters from a lesser known Sonic the Hedgehog arcade game - Mighty the Armadillo and [something] the Squirrel, but they're miles less shite than Vector the Crocodile, Big the Cat, Rogue (Rouge?) the Bat or any of the other jokers since.  Plus they have distinct abilities that that felt worthwhile.  It also rejigs the stage layouts and aesthetic here and there.  Instead of traditional lives you collect character changes from TV sets and can switch between the main two at any point.  It's an okay idea in theory but it does some annoying things with the restart points, meaning it either feels too easy if you've collected a few buddies or too harsh with a single character (somewhat negated by gaining continues admittedly).  At first I thought the stages were completely overhauled, but the bulk of them are actually quite similar, which is a bit lazy compared to top tier dlc offerings.  It's minor tinkering on the whole, with the new characters, character system and colour palettes being the main changes (bonus stage layouts are new too, and overly harsh).  Oh, and a hilariously bad pinball special stage has been added, which feels like it was rescued from the Chaotix cutting room floor.  It's quite a thing. The competition mode now works with four players instead of two...but that's about it as far as I can tell.  The dlc is far from vintage really, so: [6].  The mania show is wonderful but don't expect much from the encore. It's just about worth it for the new characters though. Still, it was a good excuse to play through it again, which had me dreaming of all the missing stages they could stuff in Sonic Mania 2.

Heave-Ho!

Oh moot

Mighty is aighty. Ray is shit.

Two of the weaker Mario games?! Ok.

tigersgogrrr wrote:

Mighty is aighty. Ray is shit.

Aha, Ray the Squirrel. He'd be good in levels built around his ability I reckon but it didn't feel like there were too many opportunities to take flight.

I'd pay at least £20 to watch a 'Muzzy and Elf play' Heave-Ho! Twitch stream.

My favourite games don’t have many 10s in them. Personal favourites and “the ‘best’ games, wot get 10” are different innit.

hylian_elf wrote:

Personal favourites and “the ‘best’ games, wot get 10” are different innit.

Only if that's how you choose to dish out your personal scores. My 10s are mine rather than 'me if I worked for Edge'. If I loved Journey to absolute bits I'd give it a 10.

Moot_Geeza wrote:

List em!

Super Mario World
Zelda LTTP
Super Meat Boy
Hollow Knight
Tetris
FFVI
FFVII
ICO
The Secret of Monkey Island
Dark Souls
Portal

They're probably the only nailed-on [10]s.  More [9]s than I could shake a stick at, I expect, including some obscure puzzle games (with The Witness, Baba, Spacechem all knocking on the door).  Civ, Super Metroid and MotorStorm PR are there or there abouts too...

Moot_Geeza wrote:

hylian_elf wrote:

Personal favourites and “the ‘best’ games, wot get 10” are different innit.

Only if that's how you choose to dish out your personal scores. My 10s are mine rather than 'me if I worked for Edge'. If I loved Journey to absolute bits I'd give it a 10.

As it should be. What's a score if it's not your own?

Exactly.

No.

Ergo plato classic moot.