Raiziel wrote:

I actually don't mind 'em.  Gimme a few more, in fact.  I'll take shiney Mass Effect trilogy, the BioShock's and Skyrim next, please.

Yeh, i would crumble for a ME trilogy.

I suppose it wasn't a huge hit, it's not like GTA where almost everyone will have played it. The price will drop pretty quickly if they're wrong.

The city design is way behind R* but the fighting and driving was better than GTAIV.

GTAIV had the worst driving of any game ever. SD had very arcade like handling, but it was possible to drive flat out for minutes at a tube without so much as clipping another car or scenery (with a cheevo for doing so iirc).

Horses for courses / opinions etc, but your just fucking wrong on this one in afraid Sparkles.

Anyone that prefers the driving of this to any GTA (even the 2D ones) needs to have their bumps felt as there's something wrong there.

Press button to powerslide. Dear me.

I've been having an absolute blast going through this again, but now Definitively.

When I played on PS3, that was having suffered GTAIV some time before it, which is why, at the time, I rated Sleeping Dogs' higher than GTA's.  It's defenitely better than IV's, because IV is just awful.  I have, however, now played GTAV, so I can see why some folk don't like SD's driving.  They're certainly very different. I still find the driving in this a whole lot of fun, though.  Apart from the insanely long bike race. That got on my tits.  But not as much as so many GTA missions.

Interested to read the above opinion about city design. It occurred to me that one of the reasons I have such a blast in this is the atmosphere. When it's raining, and the neon lights are reflecting off the puddles, and the sun comes out, and the alleyways are hazy with mist.  Each area has a different feel.

There are undoubtedly faults.  There's an inherent problem with making the protagonist in this kind of game a cop.  Yeah, sure, he's undercover and he's in too deep, but there's no way to complete some of these missions without a serious disregard for innocent people's lives.  In one mission, our hero was so enraged by somebody stealing, he power-slid through a group of pedestrians in pursuit of the thief.  The rascal.

Combat is a hoot. I had forgotten that you couldn't necessarily just welly in, and that timing is key.

The treatment of female characters is mixed.  Wei has female bosses in both sides of his life, but all other female characters are brainless pieces of meat, who exist to be taken on a date mission which will end with the promise of (thankfully off-camera) sex and some sort of bonus.

Anyways, I'm enjoying the story, I remember certain parts but not others, and the missions are still great fun.  There's a real range of mission types, and I'm looking forward to the DLC which I bought for PS3 and never got around to.

Ace fun.  I see I'm the only person on my friends list playing it, which is a shame.  Maybe everybody else caught it first time around.

The look and feel of the city is tops but the layout of the map is way behind what GTA is up to. It's a handful of distinct districts, all of which are a bit of a mess, with highways joining them up.

As a fan of 90s HK movies I have great memories of this. The parallel xp meters for gangster and cop capture the split loyalty theme in the story and in the story of about 80% of all HK gangster movies.

And Wei is just such a dude.

Awesome sauce applied when wet.

I liked it.  If I ever have enough time to give over to playing videogames again I'll give it another run through.

Just managed. I feel relieved and awesome.

<cough> A thing I wrote. </cough>

There is isn't there? Triad Wars?

So Sleeping Dogs sold over 2.5m but didn't make money, or at least not enough to risk a sequel.

This industry is depressing sometimes. Back in the 90s those sales would have equated to a big hit.

I only turned it on for a quick look and 2 hours later I'm thinking I'll be doing a full play through again. Combat is so much fun.

Yeah for sure. Enjoyed my play through as well. A great B tier game that you don't get many of these days.