monkey wrote:No idea what they'll do but it would be hilarious if Andy Street winning keeps Sunak in a job because he's been doing everything possible, save from quitting the party, to claim he isn't a Tory and has nothing to do with the Westminster Tories and he's his own man yadda yadda. No Tory branding on any of his campaign material.LivDiv wrote:Back to this week. I think Sunak is out if Andy Street doesn't win. Tory vanity contest for weeks and whoever comes in wont want a GE until Jan. If its a psycho like Bandersnatch they'll gain some Reform votes back, I don't think Reform will roll out the red carpet though.
LivDiv wrote:I hate that sort of thing. If you cant even put the party colours on your pamphlets should be running as an Independent.
monkey wrote:Yep but half of them seem to have lost their minds. Boomers that have been radicalised by Facebook or something. Politics changes and in a few years people will be talking about different stuff. But it seems very hard to get together over 40% of the electorate on a platform that is severe enough to foreigners for the racists to vote for, while not putting off the soft centre-rights and swingers. The nod and a wink, dog whistle Tory racism of the past doesn't cut it at the moment.Funkstain wrote:The simple fact remains that we seem forever cursed with 30% always-voting cunts
RedDave2 wrote:monkey wrote:Yep but half of them seem to have lost their minds. Boomers that have been radicalised by Facebook or something. Politics changes and in a few years people will be talking about different stuff. But it seems very hard to get together over 40% of the electorate on a platform that is severe enough to foreigners for the racists to vote for, while not putting off the soft centre-rights and swingers. The nod and a wink, dog whistle Tory racism of the past doesn't cut it at the moment.Funkstain wrote:The simple fact remains that we seem forever cursed with 30% always-voting cunts
Don't in general people swing a bit more conservative as they get older? Not saying that expains everything but I thought that was a thing.
LivDiv wrote:Back to this week. I think Sunak is out if Andy Street doesn't win.
Tory vanity contest for weeks and whoever comes in wont want a GE until Jan.
If its a psycho like Bandersnatch they'll gain some Reform votes back, I don't think Reform will roll out the red carpet though.
LivDiv wrote:Tories have won Tees Valley.
Labour have conceded.
51%-43% at current count.
The gap was closed significantly though and according to Sky News when translated to parliamentary seats would see them all go to Labour in that area.
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