Kernowgaz wrote:

Why would you want to put PAL versions on there when the crap versions?

There are some cool pal only games. Or if you want to dump your own carts onto there.

mistercrayon wrote:

Kernowgaz wrote:

Why would you want to put PAL versions on there when the crap versions?

There are some cool pal only games. Or if you want to dump your own carts onto there.

Are there? I can't think of any. We got a nice golf game called World Masters Golf that was PAL only but nothing else springs to mind.

Super international cricket.

Terranigma is the biggie there though (the Proto rainfall game!)

mk64 wrote:

also differences between pal and ntsc super mario kart

Eh? What are those?

10 oscillations per second?

Aside from Bowser and Peach necking the booze in the JPN version I don't think there's any differences... apart from the standard 17.5% speed difference, but thats not exclusive to SMK.

Was tweaked then. It must have also got some speed adjustment to be only a few seconds behind after 5 laps.

Just played it. Well I say I played it - it was nigh on unplayable - horrendous looking. Best left in the past that one.

Takes some adjustment but yes, it's still a great game.

I think F-Zero has aged better though, it's so much smoother.

I'm one who prefers 64 to the SNES game, always have.

You can see the influence 64 had on the later games, the SNES (and GBA) games feel very different in comparison, because of that I think they're much harder to go back to.

retroking1981 wrote:

I'm one who prefers 64 to the SNES game, always have. You can see the influence 64 had on the later games, the SNES (and GBA) games feel very different in comparison, because of that I think they're much harder to go back to.

There was just something about MK64 that put me off. 

First of all - I got SMK really early after the SNES launch not knowing what to expect and adored it  - rinsed that game. So it was always going to be hard to live up to the hype.

Then there's the fact that I played MK64 on a crappy PAL machine with an iffy AV hookup. It looked shit and ran like treacle. There is also something about the single player mode that makes the game seem empty. It comes to life in multi-player but wrt single player Diddy Kong Racing trounced it.

I really enjoyed the Wii version but my favourite remains Double Dash. MK8 Dx looks to be sufficient reason to get a Switch for this Christmas.  Not sure if I like the bikes in MKWii and I'm not overly keen on the idea of vehicle transitions in the MK8.  I like the Sonic Racing games but that's what differentiates them from MK.

I have since got the Japanese version of MK64 and have it running on my modded console with RGB SCART. The speed and clearer picture helps and the tracks are great but those sprite scaling drivers means the game will only ever look so good. Overall the game feels rushed and unfinished - can't really put my finger on it.

Aye. SMK was PAL but it didn't feel slow. MK64 didn't have a sense of speed on most tracks - that Wario stadium one was particularly bad.

I have NTSC versions of both now - I offloaded the PAL versions of both. If I have one tiny regret about my big clearout a while back it was getting rind of PAL SMK - though that's more about sentimentality.  I have the US version but I'd like to get a boxed version of the JP version.

With SMK the speed difference wasn't that noticeable. Seeing it full screen was the main difference which in a way can make a game feel faster as the image is stretched. The speed difference with MK64 really is quite noticeable.

It's a pity because later N64 games didn't feel quite so bad. They did a decent job with F-Zero X for example. The NTSC version still runs a bit faster but the difference isn't as marked and you get a nice sense of speed with the PAL version.

I can remember changing the camera setting gave me a slightly better impression of speed. One of the camera positions was a bit further back behind the kart and that helped but it wasn't great.

The tracks in MK64 were very good though - i was reminded of that when they started popping up in MK Wii - they were among the better tracks to race on.

I also liked the feature that prevented you from spinning out if you hit a banana and applied the brake at the right time.

Toad's Turnpike is a hateful track. Didn't like the update on Wii either.

davyK wrote:

The speed difference with MK64 really is quite noticeable. It's a pity because later N64 games didn't feel quite so bad.

I was reading some old mags the other day and I have a theory on this.

Nintendo shut down their UK headquarters late in the SNES days and Nintendo products were then distributed by Total Home Entertainment or THE. 

It was under them things became very shoddy and it didn't improve until Nintendo setup a EU HQ in Germany, which is still the one we have today I believe.

I'm surprised to find my local Prime Now actually has SNES Minis in stock.